- fucking annoying
- can’t believe they sold people that it’s BETTER to have to get your phone out to login
- incredibly annoying
- if you’re using this willfully you’re clearly just as worried about security as before anyway
- companies love having real phone numbers to pair with ‘their’ data
fucking annoying
security is annoying. You also have to carry around keys for your home, work, car, locker etc… Personally I think that is much more annoying.
can’t believe they sold people that it’s BETTER to have to get your phone out to login
Security wise it is better. Have you not seen a heist movie? There is always multiple layers of security. Two factor is another layer of your security.
incredibly annoying
Some passwords managers have 2FA built in. Just use that if your so annoyed. Less secure but still better than having no 2FA.
If you’re using this willfully you’re clearly just as worried about security as before anyway
I would be way more worried about an account without 2FA. Done right it is a huge security improvement.
Companies love having real phone numbers to pair with ‘their’ data
Good thing a proper 2FA system doesn’t require a phone number. In fact using a phone number is less secure. So avoid giving out your number and use another option if possible.
Sorry, this is a bad take. It might be annoying but the security 2FA offers is better in every way.
- fucking annoying
Maybe it is but this way you can’t log in to my account even if you have the password. You need to have my phone too.
yes, that’s the most annoying part
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I like yubikeys since it means I don’t have to pull out my phone. totp on the laptop also works well enough.
sms based 2fa is the worst. it seems like to me every ceo and other non-technical c-level person I’ve known personally loves sms based 2fa though because they can’t figure anything else out.
They like it because it’s cheap and easy. They pay a phone provider for the 4 digit phone number and type in a script to generate a random code and text it. There is no oversight or maintenance.
Pairing with an Authenticator app is easy, but a little more work. Pairing with a mobile app can get a little tougher and require development plus maintenance in making sure the app cannot be spoofed and works with updates. Using a physical drive for 2FA is a pain in the ass to set up. From a business standpoint, 2FA only needs to work enough to remove liability from your business. If someone spoofs your cellphone number that’s on the phone provider not them so that’s enough to remove liability
Microsoft gave the option to call and you hit pound. I prefered that overall. works with any kind of phone.
Phone numbers can be spoofed and calls can be redirected. Or, even better, conditional call forwarding is supported by most carriers. It can be set up and you’ll never know. Then they get the phone call and not you
and smart phones can be hacked. the point of two factor is they have to control both parts.
Right but the point they’re making is it’s a lot easier for a third party to intercept a code that has to be sent to you than it is for them to get the code from an authenticator app since they’re generated on your device. At that point you pretty much need physical access to the phone.
im osrry so a hacked device would not show the authenticator code? I really don’t see the difference here. Again its not each bit being so un breachable as much as they would have to have to breach both parts. I really don’t think its taht easy to redirect all the calls that are supposed to go to my phone.
One is much easier to accomplish than the other and doesn’t give the target the same chance to realize something is going on.
I love it when people are as confident as you, whilst simultaneously being wrong.
Fuck the phone number harvesting. However, double verification is the same as the driving belt and the condom: it’s annoying and spoils the experience but it protects you.
If you use a good 2FA app instead of Google Authenticator (yes, they can be used interchangably) you can use it on desktop and copy the OTPs to your clipboard. I personally use Authy, but others compatible with GA exist as well.
Also, 2FA is optional almost everywhere, but if you decide to not enable it, don’t act surprised if your accounts get taken over. These days a password just isn’t enough.
Security and convenience are just mutually exclusive and I don’t expect mankind to ever find a way around that fact.
Yeah who needs security anyway. Let’s all use the same password, or variation of the same one for everything while we’re at it.
that way, none of us ever forget!
Let’s get rid of passwords entirely
- fucking annoying
- can’t believe they sold people that it’s BETTER to have to type a whole password to login
- incredibly annoying
- if you’re using this willfully you’re clearly just as worried about security as before anyway
- companies love having real passwords to pair with ‘their’ data
I just got a replacement router (bad lightning storm) and to set up the wifi information or anything else I had to download an app on a phone to access it. 192.168.1.1 shows the QR code to install. And what I can change on this new one is even less than the limited version I had before. Total overkill.
Man, passwords are indeed so fucking annoying, imagine having to memorize an intricate all separate string of text other than your username. And having to create a completely new one for every site? This sucks. I should be able to login just by typing my username
