Artists lose first copyright battle in the fight against AI-generated images::But the fight may not be lost as the court allowed the artists to claim copyright infringement against Stability AI, Midjourney, and DevianArt, on workpieces that the artists had filed a copyright for.
Yes, please keep fighting to ensure we are locked to adobe’s rent seeking model with no open alternatives.
The best thing for the art world is to make sure independent and poorer artists have no available competitive tools as we head into an inevitably advanced future. Where would we be without our intellectual landlords in such a future. The ones who can afford proprietary datasets are the only ones who deserve to prosper.
Right?
Yeah actually I don’t like that. Also as an artist with degrading digital dexterity, such a powerful medium that doesn’t rely on hours of causing my hands more damage is really cool.
Can’t wait to get holodeck style creative experiences. I will enjoy creating such things as well, if it’s not exclusively available through corporately aligned rent systems.
Copyright has always traditionally required there to be some sort of direct linkage to the source material, like “This has X character that I own in it” or “This is like X story I made, except Y and Z were changed”.
Generative AI for the most part doesn’t do that. There is no line to draw from their pictures to the AI’s pictures. The lawsuit that maybe stabs these programs in the back would be a big artist claiming that they used the research LAION training set, knowingly, to create a product that copies their style exactly via their labeling of works with their name, and thus reducing their way to make money. Whether that has enough basis in law to work… debatable.
But “This work it generated violated my copyright” is for sure not the way to get them.
So now artists are going to have to actually apply for copyright? What the fuck happened to intellectual property?
Bit of a long story…
Some forms of intellectual property require registration. For example patents. Patents are supposed to encourage technological development by allowing inventors to monetize their work. There’s a lot of justified criticism of that system but, on the whole, it seems to have worked.
Originally, US copyrights worked in exactly the same way, for the same purpose. The requirement to register for copyright was dropped in 1978. However, registration still plays a role in US law for some legal purposes.
So what happened to copyright?
Europe developed a different copyright tradition, in the 19th century, while it was stilled largely ruled by oppressive autocracies. The monarchs of the 19th century were not the overpaid figureheads that still exist in some countries.
Copyrights today last (usually) until 70 years after the author’s death, while patents which underpin tech progress last (usually) only 20 years in total. You can see that this is very different. That copyright revolves around the death of a person shows how it is a personal privilege, as were normal in aristocracies. The purpose is to enable people to extract money without any consideration for the interests of society as a whole. It’s about rent-seeking.
Nowadays, US content production (Hollywood, etc.) dwarfs that of Europe. The better copyright laws of the US may have something to do with that. Although the US has gradually shifted over to the rent-seeking European model, there are still some advantages left.
As the content producers in the US grew, the US gradually switched over to the rent-seeking model. I think this is largely because the content producers also gained more lobbying powers.
The biggest trick the rich ever pulled was fooling the public into thinking copyright benefits everybody. It doesn’t. It only benefits them. It will only ever benefit them.
In the US, copyright is implicit. All work is instantly protected by copyright the moment it is created. Registering with copyright office is optional/voluntary. I think the judge’s comments that you are referring to was probably referring to the works where copyright protections were waived by the artists for works placed into public domain (which, on Deviant Art, covers a vast amount).
works placed into public domain (which, on Deviant Art, covers a vast amount)
So especially poor and young artists get exploited. Why am I not surprised.
intellectual property is a fiction. it’s a term used to snow people. there is no such thing, nor should there be.
Intellectual property is a social construct, but that does not negate its reality or make it fictitious. Its the very thing that copyrights, patents, trademarks and countless laws were created to protect. And it’s an invaluable tool for people that need to protect their ideas and creations, especially artists and makers. The issue with intellectual property is that most of the laws surrounding it were created by/for corporations and rich people, and wind up fucking the rest of us over.
people share. food, recipes, songs, stories, pictures, tools. to use a government-enforced monopoly to interfere with people sharing is fucking immoral.
copyrights, patents, trademarks
anyone using one term to refer to all of these is being fundamentally dishonest: they are completely separate laws with different histories and uses. stallman says anyone using this term is trying to snow you. i agree.
I’m not convinced you even know what intellectual property is and aren’t merely parroting the controversial opinions of random people on the internet. Here are some links that might be of use to you;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property
https://www.findlaw.com/hirealawyer/choosing-the-right-lawyer/intellectual-property-law.html
I’m not convinced you’re interested in perspectives that don’t affirm your own
You have yet to offer any new perspective other than to say “your wrong” or “your lying”. If you can come up a convincing argument and support it, then I would be more than happy to learn something new and change my mind.
that’s still not very convincing. I’m not asking to be convinced though. if you are happy in your ignorance, why should i disabuse you?
I don’t understand how it’s not plausible to know whether works aren’t copyrighted in the data or not. That has to be tracked for multiple reasons and if AI teams pulled in the full data set to train the model it should be a matter of filtering out works that have usage restrictions applied. I would think it is just a matter of the AI team choosing to ignore usage restrictions rather than an inability to adhere to them.
It seems to me like the judge is misunderstanding or disregarding the nature of the data and procedures for deselecting cases.
Hahaha take that you jobless neets. Flip burgers and get a real job, now doodling won’t pay jack.
I’d like to see you create high quality art using either a mouse or graphics tablet. It takes a lot of time and practice to draw something as simple as a decent looking circle without using the circle tool or a brush stablizer.
