• ɔiƚoxɘup@beehaw.org
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      Because the only one who wins in a war is the military industrial complex, and they have fantastic lobbyists!

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        If someone invaded your country and started murdering people you’d want to win the war.

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          What I’m saying is even the victors suffer the loss of many deaths thus the only winners are the military industrial complex supplying the arms and becoming enriched. Does that make more sense?

          Слава Україні!

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            Solzhenitsyn said that there’s nothing worse for a country than to win a big war. This is filtered a little through my own perception, but the best I remember it was that winning a war teaches the lesson that all the maniacs were right and gives them all kinds of confidence to let them do more of the same, which never ends well at home or abroad. He said that usually if a country loses a big war, it comes out of it with some wisdom, and regards any maniacs at home or abroad with deep visceral suspicion from then on, which is as it should be.

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          It makes me sad that they’re having to conscript the youth of Ukraine. What if it was my kid? What if it was me?

          I hope they can end this fast!

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                Some people think in simple binaries, and lump people into groups based on who they believe holds a certain view.

                Say anything negative about Israel, you must be pro-Hamas.

                Say anything negative about Biden, you must be pro-Trump.

                Say anything ‘negative’ about Ukraine (even something as simple as that Ukraine’s youth being conscripted and dying is horrible), you must be pro-Russia.

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      100% I hate the fact that we’re funneling money I’m anti-war but the alternative is definitely much worse. If we don’t support Ukraine, Russia gains power and a free pass to invade whoever the hell they want. If we don’t support Israel we leave a power vacuum and The power influence of the US gets replaced by either Russia or China. No good options anyehere.

      Obviously, supporting Israel is also supporting genocide. It’s a classic catch-22.

      I’m so glad I’m not the president! He gets to choose between eating a shit sandwich, and eating shit gumbo.

      At least Ukraine has a pretty righteous cause. So there’s that…

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        You don’t have to say you’re anti-war before saying you support supplying Ukraine. Giving Ukraine the means to defend themselves from warmongering is a form of being anti-war.