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  • Among other things, the articles criticizing games for unrealistic body standards…

    That’s totally unrelated to being ugly. Can people with normal shaped bodies not be attractive to you? Do you only get off to hentai?

    You can find a games journist saying practically anything. Who cares? Don’t give the ones you don’t like views.

    Ok, so in your interpretation, the Game producer/developer I am criticizing tricked me into criticizing them.

    Maybe, but that’s not what I meant. I meant the people behind Stellar Blade were saying they weren’t censoring was pure marketing. It was stupid bullshit. No one was trying to censor them. It’s like yelling out “I’m going to eat this burger” and acting like you’re standing up to something, when no one was asking you to stop. Sure, it worked to make the stupid incels buy it, but it didn’t mean anything. They were going to make the sexy character regardless, because they knew those people would buy it, and the “not censoring” thing was just icing on the cake.

    There are games that try to rage-bait too though. The incels yelling about it is free PR. Most people don’t give a shit, as long as the game is good. They wouldn’t even know some of these games existed without the rage though. The people angry about it were never the target market anyway, so it doesn’t cost anything.


  • On the other hand, I 100% support putting pressure on Games to not cave in to the outside demands for “uglier” characters in all games.

    This is the entire issue. You’re assuming there’s some horrible outside pressure to make characters ugly, so you’re in favor of outside pressure to make them attractive. Isn’t outside pressure the issue you’re arguing about, not them being ugly? How is the outside pressure you’re in favor of better than the outside pressure you’re arguing against (and making up without any evidence of it even existing)?

    I chose this example because it is easy to verify it was not the devs choice. Yeah, the difference is small, but the principle is the same.

    First of all, modern games are not made by a single person. Second, how can you verify it was their choice? It’s marketing. They were making a product to make money, as all studios are doing. They saw a market and made up stuff about “not censoring” to sell their product. That doesn’t mean they weren’t forced to make a product they didn’t want to make. I’d bet on it being the opposite in fact. They saw they could put a sexy woman in the game and people would buy it, so they forced the devs to do so. (I’m pretty confident this is at least partially true, because the game doesn’t seem to do anything unique or interesting. It only copies other things. There’s no creativity or passion from what I’ve seen of it. There’s no reason for the character to be hot given, unlike Nier Automata for example.)


  • I have no issue with Ciri and am looking forward to Witcher 4. Never said anything to the contrary.

    Thats what this thread is about. Why are you even commenting this kind of stuff if you don’t care?

    I gave a very specific example in Sony and Stellar Blade, when the game developers publicly spoke out about their intentions to not censor.

    Marketing. Hell, even still the incels complained that it was censored because a few outfits were slightly different, a few with a tiny bit more cloth. The Witcher has been far less “uncensored” than Stellar Blade, with full nudity. What does it even mean when their game with no nudity is “uncensored” when no one was trying to censor them?

    Exactly what I was saying I want as well. Doubly so if you are not even the intended audience and are just pushing your religious/moral beliefs.

    Which includes the belief that all the characters need to look attractive, right? You’re angry at them too, right?

    What does that have to do with anything. DaVinci was not pressured into drawing Mona Lisa the way he did.

    The point was that art can be whatever the artist desires. It doesn’t have to look attractive. Substitute it for any unattractive art made for profit if it’s not a good enough example. There’s plenty of them.



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    That they’re being forced to make characters ugly. In the case of The Witcher 4, she looks how you’d expect given her age, physical abilities, what she’s gone through, and also the book descriptions. (The books basically say she looses her physical appeal.)

    They’re making games primarily to make money. The companies are trying to maximize that. If they’re telling them anything about character design, it’s to make characters that sell the game. I think it’s significantly more likely games with the ridiculous clean, skimpy, sexy characters are having that dictated from above. The Witcher 4 is designing the character that they think works with the game they’re making.

    Complaining when art isn’t being made to appeal to you specifically is the most entitled thing you can do. Play the game or don’t. I don’t care. If it doesn’t look appealing to you, then fine. You don’t get to have every game made for you. If you only want to play games with sexy women, there’s plenty of those. Go play them and stop complaining when anything else is made.

    The Mona Lisa isn’t a particularly attractive woman, but it’s one of the most famous and renowned pieces of art. Personally, I think it’s highly overrated, but that’s just my opinion and doesn’t change the fact other people love it and DaVinci chose to make it on purpose.








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    What? It can be lewd too. Wtf? Art can be anything. You are the one that implied it has to be “beautiful.” Hell no. You don’t get to both act like you’re the dictator of art and that other people are actually being too strict with art. Art is whatever the creator wants it to be. You don’t get to decide that just because you can’t masturbate to the character that it isn’t art.