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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbSehcT19u0

Let’s not be xenophobic. Humans can be shitty, no need to marginalise entire countries. Heads of states and ruling parties are the ones to criticise.

This is what worries me about social media bans for kids, there are no local resources as readily available and anonymous as the internet for dealing with the issues you mentioned, and I’ve not seen any talk about increasing funding for those sorts of services.

I’m not sure if the good social media provides to these kids outweighs the bad that it’s causing, but at the least I want to see alternatives being discussed.

Imma break down their points and provide my own counter-arguments:

Client-Server model games can’t be client only because people could cheat

The publisher can provide the executable for the server portion of the client-server game at no cost to them.

The Crew was online only and had been running for 10 years, for it to continue running would cost Ubisoft more money and squeals provide the same experience with continued support

The publisher can provide the executable for the server portion of the client-server game at no cost to them.

Excessive red-tape / Government overreach

I like my government regulating massive corporations who exist in one of the largest industries, the move fast and break things mentality is detrimental to our society.

You bought a licence to the game not the game itself

That’s fucked up and shouldn’t happen. Why you ‘buy’ something, be it a game, movie, software, car, house. You should have the freedom to do whatever you want with it.

The initiative would damage live service games which provide value outside of just the game (online friendships).

Live service games can still do this under the initiative. Publishers might make less live service games but that’s their problem, not the consumers.

In the comments he adds counter-arguments to why publishers shouldn’t provide the server executable. Focusing on how monetisation would work:

If we don’t allow monetization - Who would be the party that enforces non-monetization of that server? If it’s the government I feel like we’re making an insane amount of red tape. If it’s the original company then this doesn’t work if they shut down.

If the company shuts down then it’s no longer an issue because no-one is losing money from the game servers now being monetised.

If we don’t allow monetization - Who is going to pay for the hosting if the servers cannot be monetized? If they cannot be monetized then these servers will also eventually shut down due to cost. We don’t up preserving games like this we just shift their death down the road.

The community, there are entire operating systems that are provided by volunteers for free with no advertisements. Providing the server executable does not shift their death down the road as anyone can run it going forward.

If we do allow monetization - This leads to a really weird attack potential if people can monetize the servers. You make an awesome game that has a small community. I want to monetize that game and run my own servers. I create a shitload of bots and constant exploits to erode the game and your business. Your business closes and you now have to give out server binaries to keep the game in a playable state. I can now profit off your work via private servers. This isn’t unlikely as we’ve seen mass attacks such as with TF2 We actually see echoes of this in the mobile market already as well. The only defense right now is DMCA or other takedown measures. Devs legitimately have very little protections as-is and this would erode that further. This creates an incentive for abuse where the abuser is protected as they are within their legal right to operate said “abandoned” games servers.

An odd straw-man, as for a small studio to develop a free to play, live service game to then have their game targeted by nefarious actors using a denial of service attack will only happed if the game is popular / good, in which case the developers should be making enough money to invest in protections against said actors, e.g. the IPs can be tracked and forwarded to the relevant authorities as orchestrating a denial of service attack is a crime.

That scenario isn’t anything like the TF2 situation, whose bots are ran by frustrated community members in an effort to have Valve continue updating TF2. Private servers can also be ran for TF2 as I write this, and the game is still being ran by Valve.

The only defence isn’t takedown measures, since the developer is running the game, as Thor said in the video, the developer can ban the bots.

News just in, people are more productive using tools they’re familiar with.

I’m very much in the first camp and need to remind myself whenever I think about arriving due nuclear

Ye, we should keep appeasing Putin to avoid further escalations. Cause that worked the last time

Ye, it should always be clarified that while there is no physical / chemical addition, physiological addictions can also be detrimental and hard to break and WILL have negative side affects.

A litmus test I ask, is if someone consumes a lot of something that provides an easy dopamine hit (games, processed sugars, alcohol, etc) and if so warn them them to track their intake and take regular breaks (currently on one myself).

Fucked on my ottoman?

You joke but…

Are your monitors all the same resolution, refresh rate and size?

Thanks Peter!

IIRC the French reactors are all nearing their end of service life and’ll be decommissioned soon.

What definition for piracy are your relying on?

The illegitimate procurement of media.

where did you source it?

My ass.

Does DMCA even have a definition for this?

Can’t help you there, I’m not American.

I’ve not argued any of those points. Just that not watching ads on YouTube is piracy.

In the UK, piracy isn’t a legally defined term, and the way that I would define piracy as the illegitimate procurement of media.

but TOS is often illegal anyway.

Piracy isn’t only a legal thing. It’s just dealt with through the legal system.

I’m not modifying any of the content

Sorry, I was wrong. You are however circumventing YouTube’s playing ads.

I’m a pedantic asshole.

You don’t have permission to modify any of the content YouTube sends you.

https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#eb887a967c

Section: Permissions and Restrictions Point 2

circumvent, disable, fraudulently engage, or otherwise interfere with the Service (or attempt to do any of these things), including security-related features or features that: (a) prevent or restrict the copying or other use of Content; or (b) limit the use of the Service or Content;

Piracy is sharing content that you don’t have the rights to share.

I’d classify watching something on piracysite.com as piracy.

I’d also class bypassing Netflix’s login requirements to watch their catalogue as piracy. But I guess that’s more a semantics thing.