Fired Tesla Employee Posts New Video Of Full Self-Driving Running A Red Light
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A former Tesla employee who was fired for showing the limits of FSD on social media says he's speaking to the feds about the incident.
      • plz1@lemmy.worldEnglish
        181·
        1 year ago

        I knew that was the Boeing 737 Max “issue” without clicking the link. When safety is an add-on cost, capitalism/profit margins negates safety.

        • Sharkwellington@lemmy.oneEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          From Fight Club:

          A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one.

        • maporita@unilem.orgEnglish
          25·
          1 year ago

          I agree. But automation has made air travel safer by an order of magnitude. The problem with the 737 Max debacle was trying to use automation as a band aid to avoid costly recirtification and pilot training. They didn’t inform pilots about the new pitch control system and they didn’t train them on how to deal with runaway trim. Oh and relying on a single sensor to detect ACA was also a bad move. So, many mistakes … for which a lot of people died.

          Notwithstanding that, every day hundreds of planes rely on automation to help keep passengers safe.

          • bisq@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            1 year ago

            The other issue is the only had one of those angle of attack sensors and should’ve had more redundancy

            • rm_dash_r_star@lemm.eeEnglish
              6·
              1 year ago

              You’d think aerospace engineers would have it down to reflex that things need to be fail safe. It’s ironic a system designed to make the plane safer actually crashed the plane. That one should get an award for world’s worst engineering.

              Like any accident it wasn’t just one thing. The maker implemented a safety system that was not fault tolerant, then the airline neglected to train pilots how to deal with a failure of that system. In fact that particular airline didn’t even know the system had been added to their planes. Bad engineering, communication, and training still happens in the industry, but really it’s pretty amazing how safe these machines are overall.

              Pilot error is still the cause of a majority of accidents. A big problem is bad pilots that don’t pass regular exams can slip through the system because of management deficiencies. Like pilots it happens in the medical industry where bad doctors or nurses just get passed on from one hospital to the next. Employers fail to do proper checks on previous job performance.

              • bisq@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                100%. A failure at every possible level. Shame on Boeing for outsourcing the design of the 737-Max. I believe it was contracted to India?

                I’m going to give the pilots a mild pass since I’ve read they’re instructed to ignore their gut and trust the instruments since their instruments are “always right” and their gut can be wrong.

            • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              From my understanding of the situation, it did have two sensors but it would act if only one of them said the angle was too high. One of the fixes they added was that it warns the pilot instead of engaging if the two don’t agree.

      • const_void@lemmy.mlEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        Wasn’t Boeing using outsourced software engineers that were being paid $9/hr for that system?

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
      61·
      1 year ago

      I think the only way it can realistically work within the next decade is if all road construction is diligently recorded into a database and correct paths are predetermined and checked.

      Thing is, I’m sure there’s literally millions of km of road across a country where the road designs only exist in a cad drawing, or some realllly old drawing, or not at all.

      So basically, won’t happen this decade :P

      Or ya know, build more autonomous vehicles that use tracks, like trains, or busses on predetermined routes.

      • irotsoma@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        Or build more trains that are reliable and come often enough and eliminate the need for cars in many areas and so significantly reduce the area needed to be mapped.

        • bobs_monkey@lemm.eeEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Trains, trams, anything. There are always going to areas, especially in the US, that 100% public transit is a pipe dream, but we can certainly try. In my mountain town I’ve floated the idea of a gondola that runs above the main boulevard the length of the valley (~7-8 miles) and people look at me like I have 3 heads. The majority of our town’s services are along said road, as well as hotels and tourist hotspots, so it makes sense to me.

          Problem is you get the old-school types that think “public transit” = “you’re taking away my car!” and it always goes nowhere.