• WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      this 9 day old account has been stirring shit since the beginning. maybe we should really just distance ourselves from .ml

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          2 months ago

          Sanders really is hellbent in offloading all of the culpability for the genocide (though he denies that it’s a genocide) solely onto Netanyahu.

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            This is my problem with it. He can do all the symbolic theatric shit he wants, but until he acknowledges what Israel is doing is genocidal then it just seems like a waste of time.

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              2 months ago

              Yeah, at the end of the day he’s just a liberal Zionist who thinks this kind of overt carnage is detrimental to the overall project of Israeli settler colonialism

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            2 months ago

            My goodness. What is your point? Don’t bother trying to help the Palestinian people if you don’t say exactly the right things? You think he’d have an easier time getting support for the bill if he used the word genocide?

            It must be nice to live a life of such luxury that you can care more about the phrasing than the actions.

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            2 months ago

            You know, he is not wrong. That’s a bit like the bell curve meme. In the end it is Bibi who formed the government this way to stay in power and out of prison. It is his doing. And also the prolongation of hr war and spreading it to other areas of the ME. All a desperate move to stay out of prison

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          2 months ago

          Thanks for putting in the effort to respond to this.

          I truly think a lot of these posts are astro turf attempts design to hamstring bringing progressives together.

          we have to build the coalition first and start making change before we have the luxury of nitpicking one another.

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            2 months ago

            I truly think a lot of these posts are astro turf attempts

            Of course you do, liberals are literally incapable of seeing anyone disagree with them without bringing out the shill accusations.

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              2 months ago

              I’m more of a ni Dieu ni Maître, but you go on with assumptions.

              Continous infighting among the progressive left is what keeps both parties in power.

              Like I said, we have to have a coalition in power making changes to have the luxury of in fighting and not picking.

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                2 months ago

                Continuous infighting like accusing anyone and everyone of being secret shills?

  • TheFogan@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    Build a party… the US has quite a few systems designed to make it impossible to build a party.

    Take over a party and shift it’s goals… that we’ve seen at least partially with the tea party, though admitted it was a pretty small shift, and in the wrong direction.

    why on earth is bernie the focus, over half of congress is shit republicans that explicitly are pushing nothing but horrible things. I’d say that 10% of democrats are outright undercover republicans (fetterman, Senima, formerly manchin), over half of the remaining democrats are corporatists at best (IE the pelosi, schumer etc…).

    Bernie is clearly miles ahead of at least 95% of congress. The fact that he can’t start a political party by himself is, far from surprising. That’s a bit like asking, Asking bernie to start a political party, when in short all he is is one of the best congressmen we have, is a bit like asking a really good pastry baker “why haven’t you started a great multinational chain of Sushi restraunts”.