Close to half of American adults favor TikTok ban, Reuters/Ipsos poll shows::Close to half of American adults support a ban on the Chinese-owned social media app TikTok, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos survey that also asked questions about national security concerns and China.
Yeah… but a good education would make people more immune to US propoganda too. They just want to be more in control of the types of narratives that get pushed. They think they have more control over the US based companies.
EDIT: Think about it this way. You’re voting for a head of the home owner’s association. There are two deustchbags running. One lives on the block of homes the association covers. The other lives 500 miles away. You pick the deustchbag that lives on your block in the short term because you know that he won’t do things like order all of the houses painted a shocking shade of pink or poison the water supply. He lives there too. Presumably he’s only employing his deustchbaggy talents on things that don’t directly impact him negatively.
I argue the government is nefarious for using propaganda instead of the facts of the matter to sway public opinion. (This opinion extends to any government, which likely means every government because, in my general assumption, power holders seem to be unable to not lie to hold on to and amass more power.)
At this point, I can’t really argue with your point, you’re right, but I sure hate it regardless.
As for your edit, I don’t think that really applies. It’d make sense if the issue was voting for someone from China vs someone from the US, but this is more like “who’s allowed to spy on you? Our creepy guy who has a higher chance of doing something with the info they spied from you or this other creepy offshores guy who is less likely to do anything with that info (but the offshore guys are creepier! And worse!!! Trust me, bro!!!)”
In your example, obviously I’d rather the guy who is invested in the neighborhood to some degree so if it turns to shit, he’s going down with it. In my example, I’d much rather the guy who’s not.
I was born there and moved to the US later in life. It’s impossible to adequately describe the level of control the government has over its’ citizens and the toxic level of corporate and country worship that are required to live a life there, especially in the more rural areas. There’s a documentary called American Factory that captures some of it on Netflix. But, yes, this is very much a trust me bro kind of situation. In my opinion, while the US also lots of problematic issues, the two still don’t compare.
Ah I can’t really argue with that.
Republicans “trust me, bro”'d the US into shitty situations time and time again, and I’m slightly worried if we give them the ability to ban apps, they will not stop until the only shit left is Truth Social. They love their fucking echo chambers, as much as they used to rail against them.
I think that’s why my kneejerk reaction is to distrust their reasoning, but I did get what I was looking for in another part of this thread:
If the CCP can monitor you indefinitely, and have enough man/ai power to pull it off, they could theoretically social engineer infrastructure attacks without actually putting themselves at almost any legal risk (blackmailing is always illegal, but the methods used to get the blackmail would be hidden in the tandc’s)
Unfortunately, all I hear from republicans is tiktok=China, China=bad without any of these sorts of details, which is why I approached this with such skepticism initially
I literally can not imagine what life in China must be like. Especially for someone of about my socioeconomic class. I may have seen American Factory a while ago, but in case I’m thinking of the wrong thing, I’ll check it out again. Thanks for the rec!
(Also, in case it’s not clear, I wasn’t saying the US was anywhere near as bad as or better than China in regards to anything, just that I couldn’t tell if this specific rattling was just republican red scare bs or if it actually had substance to it. Turns out, there’s some substance to it, they’re just not articulating a position well on it, imo)