It’s a statement of fact. A casual consumer deletes a file, and then thinks that the computer lost their file. You can look at any series of IT complaints and the most common resolution is “user education.” So if there is indeed a class-action lawsuit, then during discovery they will need to produce data that shows that these specific drives have some sort of defect or obvious issue that is out of the norm for other drives. I’d like to see that data.
Then look at this thread, everything you’re asking for is already linked in this thread. The original complaint, the first time Ars wrote about it a year ago, the reddit threads discussing it, everything.
If you had bothered to read instead of demand it being spoon fed to you, maybe you’d already realize it’s not about consumers “losing a file” its about read/write errors and total failure of drives up to and including wholesale loss of all data. It’s specifically about SSDs and how these drives aren’t living up to expected read/write cycles as advertised. Also, SanDisk/WD already released a patch that was supposed to fix things in many of these drives, and the patch seems to have not changed any error-causing-behavior. (The fact that they released a patch speaks to this being bigger than a consumer “losing a file.”)
Oh, and if you’re smart enough to be checking the read/write errors you encounter on a drive, you’re probably not just a “tech-illiterate consumer.” Did you forget a large number of casual hobbyists in the technology space actually do such work for a living?
So your “statement of fact” makes you look illiterate because you couldn’t be fucked to read all that in this thread.
There is no data. There are anecdotes about people claiming high read/write errors etc. But I don’t see data. A million Hot Saucerman’s complaining about their consumer electronics isn’t data. Is there a graph aggregating SMART statistics across multiple drives from multiple batches over time? Is there a comparison of those statistics to usage, and generally accepted Industry SSD read/write rates?
Where is it? It certainly wasn’t in the articles and it certainly wasn’t posted anywhere on Lemmy.
So it went from “consumers don’t know any better” to “if consumers haven’t aggregated all this data to prove it, it means they’re dumb.” That’s a big fuckin leap, you know, to go from “it’s because they lost a file and are too dumb to understand” to numerous people reporting failures of their drives, to where they are unmountable, and it’s their fault for not collating all the data first. One might even call it “moving goalposts.” I doubt people who are busy worrying about lost data have the time to be organizing a nationwide call to data harvesting for this.
For someone who ostensibly hates capitalism or something, you sure have a funny way of showing it by defending corporate malfeasance by claiming consumer stupidity. Which once again is elitist, and hypocritical coming from you, specifically. Maybe try practicing what you preach.
Projecting? You only know of me what you’ve seen in a few threads, and I only know of you what I’ve seen in a few threads. What I saw was a guy acting like an arrogant prick, even when people were polite and agreed with them. You’ve continued this arrogance and acting like you know better than anyone else in every thread you’ve popped up in. You’re an elitist, yet you preach not using “classist” speech. I don’t know if you’re projecting, you’re a troll, or if you’re just a very sad broken person who can’t be fucked to be nice, but I just know you’ve rubbed me the fucking wrong way after I was super polite to you after a misunderstanding. An unwillingness to give basic human decency and politeness in return makes me think you’re a raging asshole, and any time I find you popping up in threads being an asshole I’m gonna dump on your ridiculous fucking takes.
I just asked for data to support a claim made in an article, and apparently that was crossing the Rubicon for you. I really haven no idea what you are on about.
You know you really are an elitist for someone who walks around complaining about others using “classist” language.
You’re not wrong, Walter, you’re just an asshole.
It’s a statement of fact. A casual consumer deletes a file, and then thinks that the computer lost their file. You can look at any series of IT complaints and the most common resolution is “user education.” So if there is indeed a class-action lawsuit, then during discovery they will need to produce data that shows that these specific drives have some sort of defect or obvious issue that is out of the norm for other drives. I’d like to see that data.
Then look at this thread, everything you’re asking for is already linked in this thread. The original complaint, the first time Ars wrote about it a year ago, the reddit threads discussing it, everything.
If you had bothered to read instead of demand it being spoon fed to you, maybe you’d already realize it’s not about consumers “losing a file” its about read/write errors and total failure of drives up to and including wholesale loss of all data. It’s specifically about SSDs and how these drives aren’t living up to expected read/write cycles as advertised. Also, SanDisk/WD already released a patch that was supposed to fix things in many of these drives, and the patch seems to have not changed any error-causing-behavior. (The fact that they released a patch speaks to this being bigger than a consumer “losing a file.”)
Oh, and if you’re smart enough to be checking the read/write errors you encounter on a drive, you’re probably not just a “tech-illiterate consumer.” Did you forget a large number of casual hobbyists in the technology space actually do such work for a living?
So your “statement of fact” makes you look illiterate because you couldn’t be fucked to read all that in this thread.
There is no data. There are anecdotes about people claiming high read/write errors etc. But I don’t see data. A million Hot Saucerman’s complaining about their consumer electronics isn’t data. Is there a graph aggregating SMART statistics across multiple drives from multiple batches over time? Is there a comparison of those statistics to usage, and generally accepted Industry SSD read/write rates?
Where is it? It certainly wasn’t in the articles and it certainly wasn’t posted anywhere on Lemmy.
So it went from “consumers don’t know any better” to “if consumers haven’t aggregated all this data to prove it, it means they’re dumb.” That’s a big fuckin leap, you know, to go from “it’s because they lost a file and are too dumb to understand” to numerous people reporting failures of their drives, to where they are unmountable, and it’s their fault for not collating all the data first. One might even call it “moving goalposts.” I doubt people who are busy worrying about lost data have the time to be organizing a nationwide call to data harvesting for this.
For someone who ostensibly hates capitalism or something, you sure have a funny way of showing it by defending corporate malfeasance by claiming consumer stupidity. Which once again is elitist, and hypocritical coming from you, specifically. Maybe try practicing what you preach.
You are hardcore projecting bro.
Projecting? You only know of me what you’ve seen in a few threads, and I only know of you what I’ve seen in a few threads. What I saw was a guy acting like an arrogant prick, even when people were polite and agreed with them. You’ve continued this arrogance and acting like you know better than anyone else in every thread you’ve popped up in. You’re an elitist, yet you preach not using “classist” speech. I don’t know if you’re projecting, you’re a troll, or if you’re just a very sad broken person who can’t be fucked to be nice, but I just know you’ve rubbed me the fucking wrong way after I was super polite to you after a misunderstanding. An unwillingness to give basic human decency and politeness in return makes me think you’re a raging asshole, and any time I find you popping up in threads being an asshole I’m gonna dump on your ridiculous fucking takes.
I just asked for data to support a claim made in an article, and apparently that was crossing the Rubicon for you. I really haven no idea what you are on about.
So you’re either oblivious or a troll. Got it.
You got downvoted by more than just me because you didn’t just ask for data, you were rude about it.