Need a politics-free safe space? It’s called “going for a walk”
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“Why do people want to talk about stuff that affects their daily lives so damn much???”
I just want a picture of a got dang hot dog
Lemmy has some very aggressive communists.
I’ve been lucky enough to dodge the crazy right wingers though.
Almost like the very aggressive communists have a nose for right wing nut jobs and relentlessly hound them until they log out
I think that’s awful an immature behavior. When you fight idiocy with aggression (at least on social media) you just get idiots who think they must be right and start truth social or something
immature
The most maturity obsessed internet people, like you, act like smug adult children while policing the maturity of others.
Sure, lib
How do you deal with fascists? Facts and logic in the free marketplace of ideas™?
I usually just ignore them.
I find that a lot of crazy right wingers do it to “own the libs” or get a rise out of their supposed enemies. It’s all just a sports game to people like that.
If you ignore them they get bored and stop being so staunch in their awful beliefs. When you fight with them it makes them feel like they’re right. You end up forcing them to rationalize every shitty position.
Almost nobody posts on the internet trying to challenge and reconsider their beliefs, so it’s not like you’re going to change their mind anyway.
I mean that’s what I think, at least
Thanks for ignoring the people who want us dead, very mature and polite of you!!!
Yknow I’m talking about on social media platforms, right?
Frothing at the mouth raging at someone on a social media platform doesn’t do anything but cause more radicalization, so I just ignore people instead. I don’t spend most of my life fighting with people on the internet over politics.
I don’t spend most of my life fighting with people on the internet over politics.
You won’t push back on fascists, but you can’t shut up when pushing back against people who believe in pushing back fascism.
cause more radicalization
Its been pointed out multiple times now that this is literally a fascist talking point. Pushing back against fascism is not what makes people fascist. In fact its how we protect the targets of fascism on shared spaces online or off.
As has also been pointed out to you some people just existing is seen as an incitement by fascists. What are they supposed to do? They can’t just ignore threats and the invalidation of their humanity. That you can shut your eyes to that says a lot about you.
I usually just ignore them.
Does ignoring the fascists make them go away? Please.
If you ignore them they get bored and stop being so staunch in their awful beliefs. When you fight with them it makes them feel like they’re right. You end up forcing them to rationalize every shitty position.
So now you’re accusing us of making fascists more fascist, as an excuse for your ridiculous theory of just ignoring fascism.
like you’re going to change their mind anyway.
Its not even about changing their minds. Its about forcing them out of shared spaces. Fascists should driven out, shamed, harassed, and redacted.
What you think is lib bullshit that gets your spaces infiltrated and taken over by fascists and reactionaries.
You want to ignore them fine, but don’t condescend to people who confront them and drive them out of shared spaces as if you have a more “mature” solution. Your solution is literally “if i close my eyes they go away” baby logic
And here we see an aggressive communist in the wild. You have a good day, dude
Why is aggressive a bad thing?
You said a bunch a bullshit and got called on it. Agressive much tankie.
Fuck all the way off dude
i wonder if maybe not having right wingers has something to do with having aggressive communists to run hem off.No. It must be lib magic
Nah I’m pretty sure it’s the same reason why Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus are never seen in a room together
Yes I go into a phone booth as my normal commie antifa self and come out as Chudly Dugsfermpt local pool supply company owner and lover of Milton Friedman
Wait are you trying to say we’re the same people?
Or that the reason is so simple why we’re not in the same rooms together that a child should be able to understand it?
I think the implication is we’re addicted to a magical potion that transforms us into an evil alter ego who causes mischief in town
And then we get to hang out with Abbott and Costello
Sounds rad
And then we get to hang out with Abbott and Costello
It’s just a single monk:
I’m fine with the lesser of two evils.
Thats a real self own. Do you think you voted away the “greater evil”, or libs did anything to make them go away?
You are the lesser evil. And we’re not fine with you.
Ok, buddy
I’m not your buddy lib. Why would i be your buddy when you think I’m comparable to a fascist?
I’m supposed to trip over myself to be civil to you when you call us the “lesser evil” to fascism?
Lol
Damn, we found their trigger word! Lesser evil! LESSER EVIL!
It’s funny how hypocritical you are right now, too. You wanna label “liberals” as fascist, but get all pissy when the same happens to you with the same amount of credibility.
What’s funny is that you lot all seem to fail to realize that “Liberalism” is not inherently left or right wing, unless you are a reductionist who doesn’t believe that social liberalism exists and only believe Classic Liberalism exists. You all talk big about your political knowledge and how nuanced your beliefs are, and then you fall victim to the classic conservative notion of reductionism. Seeing “lib” used as an insult around here is just as hilariously pathetic as all the “snowflake” shit
This is their fourth attempt at this comment
trigger word
Way to drop that mask, chud.
Are you still mad about Anita Sarkeesian’s videos, too?
What’s funny is
It’s funny that
it’s ironic that
you like it that
it’s interesting that
enraged liberals try to mask their rage behind passive aggressive openers like that.
trigger word
It’s funny how
What’s funny is
Terminal reddit brained response
I never called a lib a fascist. Liberalism is inherently right wing because its the ideology of capitalism. I understand that there’s distinctions between different types of liberals, and between them and fascists. I did call libs like you and the other poster, to use their phrase “the lesser evil” because you support capital but arent fascists.
If you don’t like being lumped in with other right wing tendencies then stop supporting capital. Its not our fault that reality is marxist
I’m getting the impression from Lemmy that there’s an overrepresentation of the particular demographic of comfortable middle-aged bookish software engineers who live in the US or Canada.
comfortable middle-aged bookish software engineers who live in the US or Canada.
That seems to be like 95% of both reddit’s and lemmy’s (or some other federated instances’) user-bases.
It’s reddit rejects so what do you think
On the other hand there’s also an overrepresentation of tankies. I don’t think those are the same people.
“Tankie” is to liberals as “woke” is to conservative liberals and fascists.
What word would you prefer to someone who tells you to your face that they intend to “put you up against the wall” and then asks if you “know what that means, you fucking lib”?
I mean, I’m a demsoc, and of the last 20 death threats I have received in my life, 15 came from people who identify as Communist-Leninist. PLEASE give me a better word for them.
Funny because of the dozens, if not hundreds, of death threats I’ve gotten, practically all of them come from zionists, NAFOs, keyboard nazis or the occasional trumpeteer.
Oh yeah!? Well I’ve received thousands, no, millions of death threats!
Who are you people?
Full disclosure, as a leftist I avoid those far-right areas like the plague. I’m quite certain I would receive more far-right death threats if I did not.
Tankies don’t get death threats from other tankies? I’m shocked!
no but trans people get death threats from “anti-tankies”
Death threats are an inappropriate and disproportiate response but have you considered that it is because you’re more irritating to the left than you are to the right? Especially given how right wingers historically are massively more violent?
What word would you prefer to someone who tells you to your face that they intend to “put you up against the wall” and then asks if you “know what that means, you fucking lib”?
Based
How many leftists do you have to execute to earn your colors?
Communist
How many leftists do you have to execute to earn your colors?
None, just liberals willing to go along to get along with fascists. Which you are.
You don’t know the difference between a demsoc and a socdem. You’re not any kind of socialist, just a lib who likes the idea of being seen as leftist.
And I bet you’re fun at parties. Please oh great psychic, tell me more about myself?
And actually, I do know the difference between demsoc and socdem. The formal definition for Social Democrat is “a supporter or advocate of a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means.” That we are constantly painted as “filthy liberal” for wanting to respect the will of the majority is a disappointing and disgusting lie. And the ONLY people who accuse socdems of being fake leftists? TANKIES. Who are not, by any meaningful definition, more left than those of us with a soul.
The only way I’m not a leftist is if your version of leftism says “fuck people, freedom, or democracy”. In **your ** version of leftism, are you ok with being the 1% ruling by force against 99% who hate you? Think very carefully before replying to that.
God, you’re such a big dumb idiot of a lib. That’s the definition of a democratic socialist, not a social democrat - you can tell by the way one of the groups are call socialists and the others are called democrats. Not only did you mix up your definitions, but you never actually managed to define democratic socialist - do you really know what the difference is if you can’t even remember to talk about one of them? The answer, scrolling down your post history to where you called yourself a socdem, is no, you think they’re the exact same thing, because you don’t even have a surface level understanding of leftism. It only takes 5 minutes in leftist spaces to discover that anarchists, socialists, and communists of all flavour hate socdems for exactly your “no really, somehow we’ll manage to vote socialism in this time” attitude, but you’ve never spent a single minute in them, because you’re not a leftist.
My version of leftism is called Marxism and is based in historical reality and current material conditions. Your version is fantastical utopianism that’s convinced the elite are just going to give up the reigns any day now.
Frankly i don’t think there’s nearly enough tankies to offset the neolibs but i have a feeling I’m in the minority. Eh! Fun times we’re in
I’m a demsoc. I want to respect Communism more, but I never get death threats from liberals and do occasionally get death threats from Tankies.
It sucks because I feel they’d make a good ally to compromise with if they weren’t hoping to have me executed for not supporting an authoritarian seizure of power.
Come off of it. You are not getting death threats from MLs. You just want to feel self-important
there’s no such thing as a tankie, the word literally has no meaning
Death to America
Death to all tankies, hooyah America, KILL THE BEAR. Ready to set 1SQ for strategic nuclear launch! Fuck the Kremlin, and fuck the CCP!
You don’t even know the name of the party. Don’t speak on things you clearly know nothing about
What’s a tankie?
Someone who supports the rights of those in the global south
Need a politics-free safe space? It’s called stop supporting people who want me dead.
Like I genuinely get mad when people say stuff like “I don’t want politics in my x” or whatever, because YEAH. ME FUCKING TOO. Do you know how much I would love not feeling on the defensive at all times due to the pending casual extermination of people like me that you are either supporting or ignoring??? If all the libs wanted me to be a lib like them they could have simply not made me life hell.
This is the point everyone misses. They forget that other people have problems even if it’s not happening to them
Firstly, that sounds like a shit situation to be in, so please don’t think I’m dismissing your struggles here.
I don’t live in the same country as you and I have no power to even slightly affect your political situation. I read enough bad news about stuff that I at least have a chance to get involved in that sometimes I want to read some funnies on the internet without having to read about another shit situation. It’s not because I don’t care, it’s because it’s not worth stressing out further about something I cannot do anything about.
So yeah, that’s why people don’t want so see US politics everywhere. Just because something is very important doesn’t mean it’s very important to everyone.
“I just don’t want to see your suffering”
Do you want to see people suffering? Because that’s fucked up.
The bare minimum you can do is listen when someone is in pain and stand witness when they are under attack. I want to see when people are suffering, so I can figure out how to help, or at very least show solidarity. Obviously I can’t take this in at all hours of every day, but that’s time I spend alone or with an IRL friend, not on an online messaging board.
Other way round for me, my IRL time contains the serious shit, I come online for escapism
I don’t know why you would go on the “people talking about events” platform and being surprised people are talking about events that aren’t happy. That’s just poor planning. I mean yeah, be there for your friends, but you should be able to have light or pleasant conversation pretty often, and steer away from troubling topics when you aren’t up for it, far easier than online.
How do you know what country they live in and if the issue is relavent in your country or not?
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The difference is just a scratch.
Except, sometimes they are very much liberals
Now this is a post I can get behind.
Take a hike, hug a tree, run your fingers through blades of grass, stare at nature and take it in.
Maybe even get a cheeky grill in while you’re at it
Grillpill me, baby
Alright so what you need is 3 large portobello mushrooms, ¼ cup canola oil (or oil of your choice), ¼ cup balsamic vinegar, 3 tablespoons chopped onion, and 4 minced cloves garlic.
First Clean the mushrooms; remove stems, reserving them for another use. Place mushroom caps gill-side up in a shallow dish.
Then Combine oil, balsamic vinegar, onion, and garlic in a small bowl. Pour mixture evenly over mushroom caps; let marinate at room temperature for 1 hour.
Go and Preheat the grill to medium-high heat; grease the grate.
Lastly, Grill those suckers over the hot grill until caramelized and tender, about 5 minutes per side; serve warm.
I’m genuinely curious what’s the difference between talking about our lives and politics?
Talking about inconveniences and commiserating with others is just life. Acknowledging systemic issues may be the source of your misfortune is politics.
- I had to wait aong time in traffic today.
✔️
- Public transit would be a nice alternative.
🚨🚨🚨 POLITICS DETECTED 🚨🚨🚨
You see, if you are white, straight and male, the answer is usually a big difference. For everyone else? Likely very little.
I don’t know why people are down voting you when you’re right. Hell people are mad at you just for talking about it
I mean I was mildly flippant. But I am a straight white guy, so you know, I’m not really punching up or down here?
It doesn’t matter what direction you’re punching here. You’re being called out because your analysis is wrong. Yes, politics in the west is certainly dominated by straight white males, but the important common trait that these people have is their class. Politics in most of the world is dominated by capital owners. Straight white males are afforded some concessions because it creates a divide among the working class. This does not mean that they are not oppressed due to their class character. Working class straight white males can and do suffer from some of the same oppression however, at a lower rate. This oppression is still unjustifiable.
I’m fine with politics on the internet, but why spam it on a memes community…
Point me to a time/place when politics were not completely intertwined with meme communities.
Oh, right. That doesn’t actually exist.
Need a politics-free safe space? It’s called “going for a walk”
Unfortunately, walks don’t last forever. Another option is to delete your lemmy/kbin account, because everything in these places is politics or related to politics or turned into politics.
Or…bear with me…you could create and moderate a politics-free meme community.
You literally have a political pfp.
Yes. After some self thinking about this topic, I realized that my concern is not about politics in general. My concern is about US politics and its big polarization, and about that fight between capitalism and communism. I wouldn’t mind politics focused on other countries or Europe, and without that polarization.
Your pfp is about one of the most polarizing topics. Most politics I see is relevant in Europe as well
It’s not polarizing when I don’t see tankies polarizing it :P
On Kbin, I don’t see much European politics, unfortunately.
Using the flag of a far-right regime isn’t polarizing?
I don’t see the Russian flag anywhere to talk about a far-right regime. Do you?
Okay, Nazi
Going for a walk?!?
That has surprisingly become political in the US
The call for walkable cities is a fatphobic dogwhistle!!!1
Everything is political, not just when your views are challenged.
Spoken like a true person who tries to shoehorn their political beliefs into every topic.
Movie based meme page?
Better talk about American politics!
Where were those movies made?
New Zealand? England?
Unless you’re watching indie foreign flicks they were all produced, written and edited in Hollywood, regardless of where they were filmed
Where did the funding for those movies come from? Where did that fancy military equipment come from? I wonder if the US military asked for anything in exchange for lending that out?
Who talks about politics on the internet? Round here we yell and fight about politics.
No we don’t you fascist swine!
The truth is somewhere in the middle, like always
Edit: apparently I should have put /s at the end
You absolutely should, since there is crapton of people out there which really prefer to throw that line completely seriously instead of moving their grey matter for a while.
Funny, never seen anyone complain about it.
Maybe it’s just you.
maybe its Maybelline! Now off to go ban more hexbear communities…
I wish I could ban hexbear as a whole.
Go back to watching your Fox News
You sure spent a lot of time making a clown of yourself in this thread. Take the L and go home.
You sure spent a lot of time making a clown of yourself in this thread. Take the L and go home.
