Commutes are part of the work day if the employer does not allow WFH. How else is the employee supposed to show up for work?
There is no reason to debate, it’s clear as day. But the greedy, rich assholes on the reins think everyone should be honored to waste their lives working under them.
Commutes are part of the work day if the employer does not allow WFH. How else is the employee supposed to show up for work?
This.
Our country went mostly work-from-home for over a year, and people were more productive, not less. If you’re going to inconvenience your work force unnecessarily then you should pay for it, absolutely.
It gets messy though. If I work 9-5 and the commute is part of the workday, meaning I would leave my house at 9am, I could move 4 hours from work. Drive to work, have some lunch, drive home. A full day’s work. When it’s time for promotions and lay offs, who do they promote and keep? Probably the people who live closest to the office, since they are the ones actually doing work that helps the company. That means we’ll just stop hiring people who live far away, even in the person is willing to make the commute.
Sounds like commuting is an incredibly stupid and inefficient waste of time. Maybe this hypothetical company would get better performance from their employees if they didn’t have a commute. Maybe letting them work from home?
I rented for a long time so I could always easily move close to wherever I was working. I don’t like long commutes, so I always kept it under 5 or 10 minutes. I know others that did something similar, but with homes.
People can choose how long of a commute they are willing to put up with. It’s up to the company to put their office in a place where people actually want to live. They can’t expect to have people wanting to show up to an office in an area that no one likes… this is the issue my company has, because they are always looking for a deal.
That means we’ll just stop hiring people who live far away, even in the person is willing to make the commute.
No change from the status quo. As it stands, employees move next to their workplace because nobody is ok with a 4-hour commute. It’s impossible even if you give up on social life.
I exaggerated to 4 hours to make a point. I’ve known many people who drove 2 hours per day. I also knew someone who drove 6 hours on Sunday night to work Monday morning, stayed locally during the week, then drove 6 hours home Friday night to spend 2 days at home.
Some people put up with long commutes to live where they want to live.
Pretty much. He was trying to avoid relocating. He did that for about 12-18 months, before the company lost steam in their whole “everyone needs to be in an office” bs.
Commutes are part of the work day if the employer does not allow WFH. How else is the employee supposed to show up for work?
There is no reason to debate, it’s clear as day. But the greedy, rich assholes on the reins think everyone should be honored to waste their lives working under them.
This.
Our country went mostly work-from-home for over a year, and people were more productive, not less. If you’re going to inconvenience your work force unnecessarily then you should pay for it, absolutely.
It gets messy though. If I work 9-5 and the commute is part of the workday, meaning I would leave my house at 9am, I could move 4 hours from work. Drive to work, have some lunch, drive home. A full day’s work. When it’s time for promotions and lay offs, who do they promote and keep? Probably the people who live closest to the office, since they are the ones actually doing work that helps the company. That means we’ll just stop hiring people who live far away, even in the person is willing to make the commute.
Sounds like commuting is an incredibly stupid and inefficient waste of time. Maybe this hypothetical company would get better performance from their employees if they didn’t have a commute. Maybe letting them work from home?
I rented for a long time so I could always easily move close to wherever I was working. I don’t like long commutes, so I always kept it under 5 or 10 minutes. I know others that did something similar, but with homes.
People can choose how long of a commute they are willing to put up with. It’s up to the company to put their office in a place where people actually want to live. They can’t expect to have people wanting to show up to an office in an area that no one likes… this is the issue my company has, because they are always looking for a deal.
No change from the status quo. As it stands, employees move next to their workplace because nobody is ok with a 4-hour commute. It’s impossible even if you give up on social life.
I exaggerated to 4 hours to make a point. I’ve known many people who drove 2 hours per day. I also knew someone who drove 6 hours on Sunday night to work Monday morning, stayed locally during the week, then drove 6 hours home Friday night to spend 2 days at home.
Some people put up with long commutes to live where they want to live.
At that point, you could make an argument that they live at work rather than where they want to live lol
Pretty much. He was trying to avoid relocating. He did that for about 12-18 months, before the company lost steam in their whole “everyone needs to be in an office” bs.
WFH?
Work from home