Personally, I want nothing to do with them and I’m not willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I moved to the Fediverse to get away from all these corpos.

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    Lmao want nothing to do with them. One of the reasons I’m here is to escape these dogshit corpos

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    They’re trojan horse. We can’t stop them from creating their own servers, but we can choose to defederate them. Up with the Anti-Meta Defederation Pact

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    Judging from their past and all the bad actions they have done in the past, bad for democracy, privacy, minorities and marginalised people and how openly they have a far/extreme-right bias. Well I feel extremely negative about them joining in. They were also part of destruction of another open/federated protocol in the past: they played big part in destroying XMPP/Jabber messaging. So I am afraid they will do their usual embrace, extend, and extinguish thing and their surveillance capitalist thing and yeah. no good. Best to block their instances outright.

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    It’s the old Microsoft strategy again - Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

    They deserve a good boot up the arse before they put one up our’s.

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    Pros:

    • my friends join
    • larger community = more content
    • meta funding would likely contribute to fediverse growth and improvements
    • any instance can defederate them from said instance, which would mitigate almost every con

    Cons:

    • Meta is evil and wants all your information to profile you and sell to other companies for profit
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    People are being really hypocritical.

    You want a free open source social network. But when people you dont like join it, you hate it. That is not how it works, its not how FREE in FOSS works.

    Meta can join, they can do whatever they want. It literally the point of this social network. If you dont like it, then go to a social network that is not FOSS, but is heavily moderated, because that is what most of you really want.

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      “Freedom” can be used to justify lots of really bad stuff. Meta has too much money to be trusted, they WILL fuck the Fediverse up eventually for more profit on the first chance they get (and people with lots of money always get those chances).

      And it’s not just about morality and the fucked up stuff that’s happened on Meta, Iike the Cambridge Analytica scandal. I stopped using Facebook years ago because of the low quality of the content being posted there. And last week I logged back in to sell some stuff and oh boy, the content managed to get even worse.

      I don’t want growth just for the sake of growth. We don’t need big corporations getting involved.

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    For myself, I’m not a fan either. But I think it could be a very good thing for the fediverse (still not a fan of that word) — which, as I understand it, is all about choice: the ability to easily access content across the fediverse, with the ability to ignore it just as easily.

    If it ends up breeding toxicity, then I’ll block any subs, and possibly the whole instance†. And if it gets really bad, I’ll just find a lemmy/mastodon/whatever instance that has defederated from them.

    † Sounds like this maybe isn’t possible yet, but is being looked at https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2397

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    They see the fediverse trend gain9ng steam with the rise of Mastodon and go “Oh sheit we need to be on that for $$$”. Proceed to embrace, extend, enshittify, and extinguish. Its nothing but Zuckerberg’s gasping breaths to try and stay relevant as his company begins the very slow, but inevitable, backslide into technological irrelevance.

    I will be leaving and/or blocking any instance that chooses to federate with anything related to Meta. They are antithetical to the entire foundation of the metaverse and they ruin everything they touch.

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      Is that necessary though? I feel like we should let them join. If they do something malicious, then we can block them. IMO, it doesn’t make sense to just preemptively block them for no real reason.

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        They’ve demontrated their evil nature in the past, promoting divisive and inciteful material and anything to drive engagement for the sake of advertiser dollars. I don’t think we need to wait for them to do it again in the Fediverse. Better to head that shit off right up front.

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        It is wholly necessary. They will start massive data mining operations if they join, harming users of all instances.

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          Data mining can happen without any of that, everything you post in the fediverse is literally available for anyone to see. Realistically, the most harm they can do is build controlled communities that grow so huge that they drown out all of the fediverse’s open communities.

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          I don’t think I could disagree more. We value the fact that this tech can be scraped, API’d and redistributed. That’s kinda point and partial cause of the protesting going with Reddit at this moment. ???

          We have abilities to block it ourselves. We want options and features to customize our personal experiences as we see fit. That’s what we are trying to build here.

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    I hate the fact that for a large number of people, this will be how they will be introduced to the fediverse and their view of it will be tainted by Meta. I also dread seeing Meta spam in my federated timeline. And I also fear Meta building its own proprietary features on top of the ActivityPub protocol, making the content generated with them incompatible with independent clients, and allowing Zuck to spread his monopoly to the fediverse as well.