Microsoft Teams is such a horrible piece of software that productivity will rise after abandoning Teams.
Any exec who makes people use that should be fired
“How can we make slack even worse?”
Care to elaborate?
I know many people who use Teams at work, and they aren’t complaining. Quite the opposite actually. Various announcements are no longer emails since they have been migrated to relevant Teams channels. This means that it’s way faster to scroll past announcements that are not particularly relevant to your work, and none of them clog up your inbox any more.The only real problem is CPU and RAM usage, but as long as your IT department is reasonably funded, that’s not a problem either.
Just created
In testing for the past year
France has horrible laws for encryption, so how much do you want to bet this thing doesn’t have e2ee.
This is an Intel operation
Zoom has poor encryption. I have seen targeted ads a day after discussing very specific chemical reagents on zoom.
Zoom, Teams, Meet, and all the major providers do not have e2ee on by default. It’s a paid extra and almost nobody turns it on.
Mega uses e2ee by default, and it cannot be turned off.
I’m not convinced Zoom doesn’t just sell your contact information to third parties.
Yeah, it was definitely that and not all the web browsing and searching you and your colleague did before, during, and after the meeting, and the meeting notes you sent over gmail/microsoft mail. 🙄
This tool is developed for France’s administration, not for the public. They host the servers. So I don’t think e2ee is indeed a requirement.
Shouldn’t it be the other way around? I’d expect e2ee to be a requirement for anything for the administration even if their laws are a little funky (rules for thee not for me, etc).
- A tool used by a state employer only wouldn’t need e2ee, since they hold all the servers.
- The French government has long been trying to make encryption in use by its citizens inspectable by them (the French government)
Still a threat to themselves lol
Its FOSS (or I guess FLOSS for this case since they are French lol), meaning it doesn’t matter if the people creating the app are “good” or “bad” actors. A “good” actor can always create a fork or host their own instance.
French people are literally not able to fork it and add e2ee without the government’s permission.
France requires government approval for exporting any software with crypto
Source? I see the repo as MIT licensed so I don’t see why forking it and hosting our own instance would be a problem.
Non-french people can, of course.
FLOSS makes more sense than FOSS anyway.
This wasn’t built to be a great service, it was built to be a French controlled one.
We like to think EU abandoning tech companies will create a new privacy FOSS ecosystem, when in reality they will likely just recreate their own Tech corps like China and US now that they have skin in the game
Never heard about this.
France requires companies to get permission to export cryptography. They’re one of the worst countries in Europe for crypto.
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/encryption-laws/
End-to-end encryption (coming soon)
I hope they do work on e2ee and they it will indeed come soon.
It says “coming soon”, which I guess probably means it’s a somewhat second-class feature.
Reinventing the wheel … Jisti cries in corner
Look, no offense, but had you check the github Readme, or the previous comments, as it is mentioned several times, and you would have found that it is just an integration of LiveKit in their internal communication system, called Tchap, and Tchap is just a customized non-federated Matrix server.
No wheel reinvented.
I haven’t quite understood, what LiveKit has to do with video conferencing. Isn’t that just some weird AI thingy?
MS about to swoop in with the yuge discounts…
Folks, you won’t believe how yuge these discounts are. The biggliest discounts ever. Many people are saying they’ve never seen one as big as this. Also, new 500% tarrifs on anyone who doesn’t buy office365.
I get that government use needs to be stringently tested for security, and so things take a little longer. But really, there are PLENTY of good FOSS products in existence that can be used as a base framework and a head-start to things like this.
You don’t have to re-invent the wheel when you could easily fork Jitsi-meet and harden it/secure it to your needs in the government.
Jitsi is one of my top 5 FOSS projects that are basically already mature enough to be used in a professional setting
It’s literally the third word on the github readme of the project linked I’m the post :
Powered by LiveKit
Lovekiy is an open source framework for voice and video conferencing
Here’s an article on LiveKit if anyone else is interested.
Interesting but do not trust Macron on anything, he’s part of the club.
I live in Australia and the company i work for needs to bring in leadership that understands technology. These idiots keeps pushing US tools and then keep getting spied on. All countries should be using the European technology.
All the countries need to use ‘Open sourced’ product, IMO.
The tech isn’t hard to copy, just had to be willing to go and do it themselves.
It is hard when they continually bribe your government
Seems pretty neat. Hopefully it’s somewhat simple to compile and set up. It’s kind of weird that livekit is VC funded though. Not necessarily the best, since they might have to relicense it to make investors happy at some point.
Look at their list of investors: https://livekit.io/about
The programmability aspect of LiveKit is cool, not that it matters much since this “meet” app is just something built on top of livekit.
Huh, why not just https://www.opendesk.eu/
Nextcloud and Infomaniak says hello.
It looks neat
Not many companies will adapt these because MS teams is part of the package and all companies use word PowerPoint excel etc so they would not go with this when they get teams bundled in the package. France should create the whole office suite but most importantly it should be linked to something similar to active directory only then there will be mass adoption
Nota bene how the description omits the world “encryption”. Timeo Frenchmen et dona ferentes
