This is like hearing “Land Back” and thinking that means deporting all white people. Completely disingenuous and ignorant misreading of an increasingly common phrase.
Im not a big fan of the phrase “death to the USA” being increasingly common… You don’t think that phrasing is ignorant? It’s also the definition of disingenuous if you’re saying it but don’t literally mean it. I guess if you identify as a violent extremist its not a bad phrase.
Common Sense Business As Usual is when you genocide other countries, pump everybody full of microplastics and collapse the biosphere for imaginary money
Violent extremism is when you want to stop the people doing that
The fact that many phrases aren’t meant literally, especially as their use increases in frequency, is a frustrating fact. I wouldn’t call people using a phrase with a generally understood meaning is inherently disingenuous though.
The trick is, it’s not a commonly used phrase. The chunk of the English speaking world that hears ‘Death to America’ and thinks ‘As peaceful as possible an end to the malign actions of the american government and it’s supporters’ is tiny. The vast majority of people just hear it as hate, and even a fair sized chunk of the people who are shouting it are shouting it in the literal, hateful sense of ‘kill the Americans.’ You can’t tell which is which without a conversation, and shouting ‘death to’ is not conducive to letting people have the conversation that would let them tell the difference between a person who wants fewer murders and one who wants more.
Yeah, it’s sort of a slogan to some people, but it’s a shit slogan. “Free Palestine!” means ‘free Palestine.’ "End apartheid!’ means ‘end apartheid.’ “Death to america!” is ambiguous, at best, and only serves the interest of the American propaganda wing by letting them claim everyone is out to kill Americans because they are American, making their actions into justified self-defense. Don’t help the propagandists. Don’t support the narrative. Supporting their narrative is supporting them. I don’t think that’s what you want.
I mean, I disagree. You said a shitty thing and you believe genocide is a positive thing. Like I said earlier, everyone on the internet gets a voice, even the really ignorant and evil people. I’m glad you’re privileged enough to be afforded the ability to say very stupid things like that though.
Again, insisting that people are calling for genocide especially after clarifying the meaning of the phrase is just bad faith at this point. You can argue it’s unclear or bad optics, but it’s not calling for genocide. It’s calling for the end to the systems that produce mass death and exploitation.
I’m not down with the phrasing my guy. Nothing you say will make me say death to any country/group is remotely appropriate. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you can and do say it. I’m more glad I can and will say you’re wrong for it.
Nah dawg I’m not going to say death to America regardless of what you say. I will hold that using a phrase like that is ignorant, privileged, harmful and stupid. To give a real answer, my family came here from Syria and Ireland. In both instances to escape violence and persecution. I consistently work to better my community and am able to do so. I regularly act to make tangible improvements on a community level, unfortunately I don’t have the power/resources to do so on a global level. I don’t like a lot of the foreign policy the United States employs. However, I disagree with you on a fundamental and spiritual level to a degree that can’t be put to words.
You would deserve it but no, it means death to the concept of the USA, death to the government, death to the constitution, death to the settler colony on stolen land.
all you have done in your life since maturity is attempt to increase the number of stolen labor hours you can accrue from the global south. you are a worthless parasite lacking some of the most important human qualities #yup
That’s the kind of thinking I expect out of authoritarians. To punish not only the person but their family and future generations if any of their family. Sins of the fathers kinda shit too. Heh, I doubt they are truly indigenous to the area they live and wonder what indigenous think of them and their ancestors.
Don’t be ridiculous. The problem isn’t limited to Americans. It would be approximately 14% of the human race. Unless you think sitting on your thumb during a genocide exempts you from being tar-boiled in hell (for some reason)
Its good to remember everyone gets a voice on the internet, even those who say ridiculous shit. You mean that because a genocide is happening, 14% of the human race should be killed?
I’d be curious to know what you would do to stop it if you lived in a country whose government was supporting a genocide. In fact, I wonder what country you live in and what you do to oppose any atrocities its government might be committing.
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This is like hearing “Land Back” and thinking that means deporting all white people. Completely disingenuous and ignorant misreading of an increasingly common phrase.
Im not a big fan of the phrase “death to the USA” being increasingly common… You don’t think that phrasing is ignorant? It’s also the definition of disingenuous if you’re saying it but don’t literally mean it. I guess if you identify as a violent extremist its not a bad phrase.
Common Sense Business As Usual is when you genocide other countries, pump everybody full of microplastics and collapse the biosphere for imaginary money
Violent extremism is when you want to stop the people doing that
The ideology drips thick as syrup
The fact that many phrases aren’t meant literally, especially as their use increases in frequency, is a frustrating fact. I wouldn’t call people using a phrase with a generally understood meaning is inherently disingenuous though.
The trick is, it’s not a commonly used phrase. The chunk of the English speaking world that hears ‘Death to America’ and thinks ‘As peaceful as possible an end to the malign actions of the american government and it’s supporters’ is tiny. The vast majority of people just hear it as hate, and even a fair sized chunk of the people who are shouting it are shouting it in the literal, hateful sense of ‘kill the Americans.’ You can’t tell which is which without a conversation, and shouting ‘death to’ is not conducive to letting people have the conversation that would let them tell the difference between a person who wants fewer murders and one who wants more.
Yeah, it’s sort of a slogan to some people, but it’s a shit slogan. “Free Palestine!” means ‘free Palestine.’ "End apartheid!’ means ‘end apartheid.’ “Death to america!” is ambiguous, at best, and only serves the interest of the American propaganda wing by letting them claim everyone is out to kill Americans because they are American, making their actions into justified self-defense. Don’t help the propagandists. Don’t support the narrative. Supporting their narrative is supporting them. I don’t think that’s what you want.
“Death to X country” is a shitty thing to say point blank period.
DEATH TO THE USA
DEATH TO ISRAEL
DEATH TO THE UK
DEATH TO FRANCE
DEATH TO GERMANY
DEATH TO THE NETHERLANDS
DEATH TO ITALY
DEATH TO ALL IMPERIALIST NATIONS
I mean, I disagree. You said a shitty thing and you believe genocide is a positive thing. Like I said earlier, everyone on the internet gets a voice, even the really ignorant and evil people. I’m glad you’re privileged enough to be afforded the ability to say very stupid things like that though.
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Again, insisting that people are calling for genocide especially after clarifying the meaning of the phrase is just bad faith at this point. You can argue it’s unclear or bad optics, but it’s not calling for genocide. It’s calling for the end to the systems that produce mass death and exploitation.
I’m not down with the phrasing my guy. Nothing you say will make me say death to any country/group is remotely appropriate. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you can and do say it. I’m more glad I can and will say you’re wrong for it.
Doubling down on the permissibility of nationalism for a country that’s committed atrocity after atrocity is a shitty thing to do point blank period
Nah dawg I’m not going to say death to America regardless of what you say. I will hold that using a phrase like that is ignorant, privileged, harmful and stupid. To give a real answer, my family came here from Syria and Ireland. In both instances to escape violence and persecution. I consistently work to better my community and am able to do so. I regularly act to make tangible improvements on a community level, unfortunately I don’t have the power/resources to do so on a global level. I don’t like a lot of the foreign policy the United States employs. However, I disagree with you on a fundamental and spiritual level to a degree that can’t be put to words.
“How dare you condemn the genocidal imperialist US! Don’t you know that I, personally, benefit from it?”
Thats true I am the only one to have benefitted historically. I can disagree with foreign policy without saying death to America.
You would deserve it but no, it means death to the concept of the USA, death to the government, death to the constitution, death to the settler colony on stolen land.
Lol I deserve it because I was born here. Thats an interesting line of thinking. I’d imagine you’re a healthy well adjusted adult.
all you have done in your life since maturity is attempt to increase the number of stolen labor hours you can accrue from the global south. you are a worthless parasite lacking some of the most important human qualities #yup
Man, people are right, those from .ml have really bad takes.
So useful.
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That’s the kind of thinking I expect out of authoritarians. To punish not only the person but their family and future generations if any of their family. Sins of the fathers kinda shit too. Heh, I doubt they are truly indigenous to the area they live and wonder what indigenous think of them and their ancestors.
Last I heard, OP is an anarchist, and is explicitly stating their opposition to the genocidal settler-colonial empire.
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hyperbole
You’re the one making the statement brother. Mean what you say, say what you mean.
Don’t ever call me brother, you humorless dope. You sensitive yanks are such losers.
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That person in your meme would not want to start fights. /s
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Stop making sense your scaring him sponge Bob.
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the meme does say they hate all usamericans
I hate Germans too
Don’t be ridiculous. The problem isn’t limited to Americans. It would be approximately 14% of the human race. Unless you think sitting on your thumb during a genocide exempts you from being tar-boiled in hell (for some reason)
Its good to remember everyone gets a voice on the internet, even those who say ridiculous shit. You mean that because a genocide is happening, 14% of the human race should be killed?
Indeed, nobody has even been banned from the significant parts of the internet for saying that, and I am completely serious.
If you would please consult the map,
Hey friend, at least you’re being honest about wanting world wide genocide.
Yes, I am being completely sincere. I hope you enjoy our serious debates in the Memes community.
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I’m calling HR dude not cool
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I’d be curious to know what you would do to stop it if you lived in a country whose government was supporting a genocide. In fact, I wonder what country you live in and what you do to oppose any atrocities its government might be committing.
asking me how I intend to stop you from committing genocide seems like bait. pretty obvious answer
Ahh, you’re a troll. Got it.
I see you have failed to adapt since being socialized on Ghislaine Maxwell’s favorite website
Fuck im stealing thjs