• Devial@discuss.online
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    If you think racist talk by private citizens doesn’t spread racist and bigoted ideas, then you’re not worth talking too.

    That’s one of the dumbest and nonsensical things I’ve ever heard anyone say. I’m genuinely flabbergasted that a functional adult could believe something so ridiculously and obviously idiotic.

    You really think people like Andrew Tate or Ben Shapiro have zero role in spreading racist and bigoted ideals ? Fucking really ? Ya think Fox News has never convinced anyone of bigoted shit ? Ya think Alex Jones didn’t make people call in DEATH THREATS to the parents of murdered children ?

    Incel forums have literally motivated mass shooters, you gonna tell me those incel forums were government run, or what ?

    But yeah, sure. Racist and bigoted talk outside of government institutions is totally inconsequential.

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      If you think racist talk by private citizens doesn’t spread racist and bigoted ideas, then you’re not worth talking too.

      I said absolutely nothing even approaching a dramatic leap to that conclusion.

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        You literally said, verbatim

        racism and bigotry outside of government institutions doesn’t really do much

        Unless you mean to tell me that the spread of these ideas “isn’t doing much”, which frankly, I’d consider even worse.

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          Unless you mean to tell me that the spread of these ideas “isn’t doing much”, which frankly, I’d consider even worse.

          It absolutely isn’t doing much, because those ideas aren’t spreading in a vacuum. They’re spreading in competition with the sensible view of equality, which is winning simply because it’s the only thing that really makes sense. Good ideas consistently win against bad ideas absent a strong force standing behind the bad idea; and it’s really hard to find a stronger force than government.

          In the U.S., racism is on the decline not due to government mandate. Racism is on the decline because in the 1960s the government stopped endorsing a particular race as superior. We don’t need the government mandating anti- racism and how the population treat each other; we just need the government to treat everyone equally and the problem of racism will continue to decrease.

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            Have you seen the fucking world lately my dude? Far right racist parties are gaining support in almost every western country. These ideas are GAINING right now, not losing, and in massive parts due to private companies engagement driven algorithms driving users to more and more radical content. Young white men are getting more and more conservative. That’s a fact. And who the fuck do you think keeps electing racist and bigoted politicians, genius ?

            How the fuck do you think someone like Ron DeSantis can win an election, if bigotry and racism is apparently on the decline ? How come far right racist parties like the GOP in the US, or reform in the UK or the AfD in Germany keep polling higher every new election cycle, if these ideas are supposedly on the decline ?

            How come right wing politically motivated violence is increasing almost everywhere if these views are so self defeating ?

            You’re literally fucking delusional my dude. You’re utterly blind to the reality of the world.

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              Have you seen the fucking world lately my dude?

              You’re being sensational. The world is more at peace right now then most of its past; there isn’t a better time to be alive. Racism is at an all time low in America.

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                I like how you just ignored all the objective and proven statistics showing right wing views and violence on the rise.

                You’re deluded, and clearly willfully blind to anything that doesn’t fit your world view. In short, you’re someone not worth talking too.

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                  22 hours ago

                  I like how you just ignored all the objective and proven statistics showing right wing views and violence on the rise.

                  I’m not talking about violence, I’m talking about racism.