I mean, I am autistic, and I think this is funny and generally accurate enough to not be offensive.
Autists are very often all about creating and enforcing consistent, specific patterns.
A stance is a pattern.
I myself have been bored, and tried to do things like this, invent pose rules for myself, see the extent that I can succrssfully apply them.
Also, there are a lot more things cats will do, or traits they have, that are also broadly accurately common amongst autists.
Such as being very sensitive to light level changes.
They can literally see into the UV spectrum, so that kind of mirrors how autists often notice visual patterns that others don’t.
They also tend to be hyperaware of even the most minute changes to their ‘home’ environments… autists tend to be that way too.
lol cats are also… rather comparitively bad at socializing, unless its with someone they know and trust quite well, or have been very well raised around well-behaved people and/or other animals.
edit … on second thought, im not sure i agree its a “natural change in language” so much as it is a cultural meme that people just thoughtlessly parrot. so, i feel language hasnt changed so much as a term of the moment has. but anyway, im rambling. cheers.
… A prominent cultural meme that is widely adopted… literally is a natural evolution of language.
This is the extremely common and normal method by which languages change over time, which, with the exception of conlangs, they all do.
Go back to 1950 and tell an American English speaker that a song ‘is fire’. Tell them that Elvis is just aura farming. Tell them that their fit is lacking.
They will be confused.
Take an American English speaker from 1950 to the present, and they tell you somebody made a boner at the lollapalooza they were last at.
You probably will not understand that to mean that somebody made a moderately significant mistake at a raccous party, like spilling their drink on the host, or bringing the wrong side dish.
is misusing the medical term widely adopted tho? or is it mostly online people that say / hear it?
im arguing that what is happening with the term isnt an aspect of the greater evolution of language, but that specific terms that come and go in a relatively short period of time do not equate a change of how people are doing language.
i appreciate the phrases you offered as examples, but i do not feel they are equivalents, as none of them are single words that are also literally medical terms.
im amused and delighted that we are having this discourse based on a hyper focus on a phrase. but i do hold firm that this is not a reflection of language changing as it is passing trend that in time may have no affect on the greater function of the language itself.
forgive me if i wasnt more concise earlier, im always high when im on here.
edit - i had to edit that a bunch. i should go to bed
Yes, some terms are basically just shot in the pan, fairly short lived fads… but, sometimes they stick around enough to distinctively form part of a kind of age bracket / location specific dialect, or even spread more broadly.
‘Cool’ ‘Radical’ ‘Tubular’ ‘Groovy’… those are all older terms that were popularized by older age brackets, you can take a while bunch of millenialspeak/redditisms as examples as well, ‘smolbean’ ‘chonker’ ‘adulting’, etc.
But also yes, often, terms get reappropriated or basicslly misappropriated, kind of transmuted into having a just totally different meaning, which can then create a lot of confusion when some people are using a more original, domain specific meaning, and then there is a kind of nebulous, vague, commonplace usage of the term.
‘Therapyspeak’ as proliferated by Tiktok is a great example of the dangers and problems of that.
Tons of people misuing terms that have actual specific meanings, that they then almost always use to essentially weaponize their own narcissism.
There are tons of other more technical terms that have more specific meanings in some field of study, but then also have a vague or different colloquial meaning, and then people will just conflate the two different usage/meanings…
That’s pretty much the basis of a bunch of woowoo, psuedo-intellectual, spiritual guru type nonsense, its also used by cults and con artists.
‘Energy’ in physics is not the same thing as ‘energy’ used to describe basically someone’s demeanor, their current mood.
But, in another comment, up the chain in this thread, I did try to lay out how ‘cats are autistic’ is actually a reasonably accurate and defensible use of the term.
I think that if people are more commonly using complex terms… actually relatively correctly… that is just a good thing.
It normalizes the idea that yeah, autistic people exist, they are different, and thats ok, and its also ok to talk about how they are different, because maybe we can all understsnd and relate to them better by way of decently accurate analogies.
What would worry me is people using the term very incorrectly, accidentally or purposefully promoting false stereotypes, or just purely using ‘autistic’ as an insult.
So, I wanted to try and point out some of the details, have the conversation.
Essentially, I’m arguing that language does broadly change over time, and also, broader acceptance and discussion of how neurodivergence actually works is a good thing.
Is me doing that ‘forced’, not a ‘natural’ evolution of language? Eh, sure.
But if a whole bunch of people are also just… using the term autistic more frequently… well, I’m not in charge of all of them, but maybe I can try to at least… shape the flow of that river, so to speak, so that more people know more about the word they’re now using more often.
agreed, but individual terms trending or not, dont equate a “change of the language” so much as a change of whats trending in said language. a semantic nitpick, to be sure. :)
when did it become acceptable to just call everything autism? i can tell you im pretty damn sick of it and it hasnt even been that long.
I mean, I am autistic, and I think this is funny and generally accurate enough to not be offensive.
Autists are very often all about creating and enforcing consistent, specific patterns.
A stance is a pattern.
I myself have been bored, and tried to do things like this, invent pose rules for myself, see the extent that I can succrssfully apply them.
Also, there are a lot more things cats will do, or traits they have, that are also broadly accurately common amongst autists.
Such as being very sensitive to light level changes.
They can literally see into the UV spectrum, so that kind of mirrors how autists often notice visual patterns that others don’t.
They also tend to be hyperaware of even the most minute changes to their ‘home’ environments… autists tend to be that way too.
lol cats are also… rather comparitively bad at socializing, unless its with someone they know and trust quite well, or have been very well raised around well-behaved people and/or other animals.
Same thing happened with OCD as well. It’s just natural changes in language. This one will pass as well and there will be a new word in a few years
true all around
edit … on second thought, im not sure i agree its a “natural change in language” so much as it is a cultural meme that people just thoughtlessly parrot. so, i feel language hasnt changed so much as a term of the moment has. but anyway, im rambling. cheers.
… A prominent cultural meme that is widely adopted… literally is a natural evolution of language.
This is the extremely common and normal method by which languages change over time, which, with the exception of conlangs, they all do.
Go back to 1950 and tell an American English speaker that a song ‘is fire’. Tell them that Elvis is just aura farming. Tell them that their fit is lacking.
They will be confused.
Take an American English speaker from 1950 to the present, and they tell you somebody made a boner at the lollapalooza they were last at.
You probably will not understand that to mean that somebody made a moderately significant mistake at a raccous party, like spilling their drink on the host, or bringing the wrong side dish.
is misusing the medical term widely adopted tho? or is it mostly online people that say / hear it?
im arguing that what is happening with the term isnt an aspect of the greater evolution of language, but that specific terms that come and go in a relatively short period of time do not equate a change of how people are doing language.
i appreciate the phrases you offered as examples, but i do not feel they are equivalents, as none of them are single words that are also literally medical terms.
im amused and delighted that we are having this discourse based on a hyper focus on a phrase. but i do hold firm that this is not a reflection of language changing as it is passing trend that in time may have no affect on the greater function of the language itself.
forgive me if i wasnt more concise earlier, im always high when im on here.
edit - i had to edit that a bunch. i should go to bed
No worries, I get what you’re saying! (I think)
Yes, language changes over time.
Yes, some terms are basically just shot in the pan, fairly short lived fads… but, sometimes they stick around enough to distinctively form part of a kind of age bracket / location specific dialect, or even spread more broadly.
‘Cool’ ‘Radical’ ‘Tubular’ ‘Groovy’… those are all older terms that were popularized by older age brackets, you can take a while bunch of millenialspeak/redditisms as examples as well, ‘smolbean’ ‘chonker’ ‘adulting’, etc.
But also yes, often, terms get reappropriated or basicslly misappropriated, kind of transmuted into having a just totally different meaning, which can then create a lot of confusion when some people are using a more original, domain specific meaning, and then there is a kind of nebulous, vague, commonplace usage of the term.
‘Therapyspeak’ as proliferated by Tiktok is a great example of the dangers and problems of that.
Tons of people misuing terms that have actual specific meanings, that they then almost always use to essentially weaponize their own narcissism.
There are tons of other more technical terms that have more specific meanings in some field of study, but then also have a vague or different colloquial meaning, and then people will just conflate the two different usage/meanings…
That’s pretty much the basis of a bunch of woowoo, psuedo-intellectual, spiritual guru type nonsense, its also used by cults and con artists.
‘Energy’ in physics is not the same thing as ‘energy’ used to describe basically someone’s demeanor, their current mood.
But, in another comment, up the chain in this thread, I did try to lay out how ‘cats are autistic’ is actually a reasonably accurate and defensible use of the term.
I think that if people are more commonly using complex terms… actually relatively correctly… that is just a good thing.
It normalizes the idea that yeah, autistic people exist, they are different, and thats ok, and its also ok to talk about how they are different, because maybe we can all understsnd and relate to them better by way of decently accurate analogies.
What would worry me is people using the term very incorrectly, accidentally or purposefully promoting false stereotypes, or just purely using ‘autistic’ as an insult.
So, I wanted to try and point out some of the details, have the conversation.
Essentially, I’m arguing that language does broadly change over time, and also, broader acceptance and discussion of how neurodivergence actually works is a good thing.
Is me doing that ‘forced’, not a ‘natural’ evolution of language? Eh, sure.
But if a whole bunch of people are also just… using the term autistic more frequently… well, I’m not in charge of all of them, but maybe I can try to at least… shape the flow of that river, so to speak, so that more people know more about the word they’re now using more often.
Honestly, I think that’s a big part of how language naturally evolves
agreed, but individual terms trending or not, dont equate a “change of the language” so much as a change of whats trending in said language. a semantic nitpick, to be sure. :)