Do what they did in the UK sell it by the litre
I think the more economic harm this does, the better. Trump can’t expand an empire that can’t hold itself up under the weight of his stupid decisions. Does it hurt us back here in the US? Absolutely it does. But this is the politics we have done everything in our power not to change, so I think we clearly need to be hurting as a result of our decisions if we want any chance of people starting to make different ones. This pain is nowhere near deep enough yet, despite the fact that GDP adjusted to consider inflation has been worse than flat. Despite the impending bond market collapse. Despite the K shaped economy and the very clear AI pump and dump that will become a dump any day now. We are on the precipice of several unavoidable economic crises in the US… We will not see different decisions until people stop making money from the things that are a cash cow for them currently. AI is being hyped as having the ability to change our lives and everything will be better (despite only apparent negative consequences visible so far)… Eventually that is going to fall out, just like crypto did. People should be heading for the proverbial hills, but they aren’t. AmeriKKKa has been propped up for so long by subsidies for oligarchs that we can sort of coast through a crisis for a while before being forced to course correct. I would say we have reached the confluence of these crises already and the gas prices just make all of these crises intensify more quickly. The sooner it crumbles… The sooner we can change it. So I think this coasting we are doing now, actually serves to make for a much deeper crisis later. For those of us that know that nothing will get better until we can knock down all of these structures first, that is a good thing. To those who were hoping to retire with what used to be the AmeriKKKan standard of living… Probably might want to consider moving to a country with single payer healthcare and standards of decency for their citizens. Our prioritization of capital has ensured that the people in the US will have no safety net while all of the systems they thought they could rely on violently collapse. I’d be pulling my money out now if I hadn’t already done that when Trump got elected. Everything they do is a pump and dump that relies on you following them into bad investments that they get out of once sufficiently pumped and you get left with a bunch of worthless stock or crypto or whatever. Gas prices are going to be the least of your worries soon.
The big problem with more harm is that people will go looking for a solution. The solutions they’ll find are either socialism or fascism. The Republican party is all in on fascism, while the Democratic party is doing their best to suppress socialism. Fascism is the increasingly likely future at the moment, so accelerating towards that decision point is not currently a good idea.
Progressives are currently fighting the establishment Democrats to make socialism an option, and it is unfortunately going to take time to beat out the Democratic dinosaurs. It would be a very dangerous gamble at the moment to ask people to choose what kind of future we should pursue without having the better option lined up.
I do think progress is being made though, even in these difficult times. New York City recently elected a Socialist for mayor, and across the country, Progressives are coming into positions of power. The establishment Dems are fighting the change tooth and nail and the Republicans are trying to enact fascism, but I don’t think the battle for a better future is so lost to the point where blowing everything up is preferable.
Fascism is here. It requires no acceleration. I am talking about sabotaging it, not accelerating towards some unknown end. I don’t think it serves anybody to pretend the democrats are just failing at socialism and not actually also in favor of fascism (which is their actual position). People went looking for the solution to Neoliberalism and as is the historical precedent, they landed on fascism. That already happened. That is not something that may happen in the future. So currently the appropriate response to this strengthening and consolidation of fascism is to try to sabotage that process any way you can… Even if it hurts everyday people at times. We are no longer in the battle for hearts and minds, we lost that battle in the US. We are in the resistance and sabotage stage and from your response, I am reminded that people still don’t seem to know that yet for some reason. I knew that when Elon gave the Nazi salute and Democrats came out of the woodwork to defend that. Helping fascism limp along helps nobody. We need to give it’s collapse a hand. While fascism’s biggest enemy is the misery of the conditions it creates on its own. Left to fail on its own could take a century or more. I don’t have that kind of time, because for me and the people I know enduring some of the worst parts of this, we need this to end much more quickly. Economics is the best way you could choose to fight that unless you just want to armchair forever as it seems supposed leftists are quite content to do. Progressives are being pummeled and all they ever have done when they win elections is just not accelerate fascism, but look where we are. We currently have concentration camps… If thats progressives winning leave me out of that bullshit.
they see the writting on the wall gas powered vehicles are slowly going extinct, they gotta make money while they can
Worse? Who said this is a bad thing?
Calculate the cost of all the externalities and gas being less than $20 per gallon is a travesty!
It’s going to get a lot worse because oil companies are going to sell oil at global rates. There’s no chance of Trump admin putting caps on it.
We will probably never see cheap gas again. Since the US is super behind on walkable and public transit this will hurt until we do.
The writing was on the wall BEFORE the war.
So what I’m reading is that gas is still very cheap in the US. Double the price would be a good start for any change to happen.
Hopefully a hell of a lot worse. Hopefully so bad people can’t afford gasoline. Imagine the fresh air. Looking forward to it.
for sale signs on all those stupid monster trucks would be awesome.
Those Broski’s will be giving $5 BJs to hobos before they give up their manhood.
Only EVs on the road? Imagine the silence. Fuck the dicks with the loud exhaust, its pointless and only there to annoy others and disturb the peace.
Clearly the drivers of those loud vehicles have very large penises.
If you want to experience this and can afford it, go to Oslo or Bergen in Norway. Their cities are downright peaceful, it’s so weird to somebody from a car-centric location.
I’d have to spend all day walking to the grocery store 😭
Well I am assured that the free market will provide you with public transport if it is the best outcome
baahahahahahahahaha. oh… uh. Wait, are we the joke?
I can’t believe that the next Democrat president did this! This is an outage!
That’s less than half of the current prices in Norway, harvest while you can!
That’s still way cheaper than prices in Europe, even compared to pre war. In Germany you currently pay around 2.20€ per litre which is ~9.50$ per gallon.
Yeah but Europeans aren’t driving like Americans. Also the US heavily subsidizes the oil industry so we’re still paying those prices just not at the pump.
usians about to find out why suburbs are a terrible idea.
Get ready for $12 gas. Thank you MAGAts.
I remember $12 gas a gallon. Those were good times.
So, will people buy more efficient vehicles? Of course not.
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New vehicles suck. Show me anything new, I’ll tell you why its shit.
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Because they’re shit and have garbage no one needs, they are insanely expensive.
If we must have electric, we need:
- Analog as possible. Preferably zero screens
- Zero connectivity.
- Repairable by me, the person who paid for the fucking thing.
That’ll never happen, so I’ll be using my old cars forever. Sad
This. I cannot abide these screen-laden spy machines. I just want a car with buttons and an electric engine, no “self-driving” or “smart” bullshit.
Exaaaactly. Give me a damn car. Its not a computer, it shouldnt be a computer.
Thanks for the link. I think I’m going to buy one.
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So with a large percentage of people in America living close to paycheck - to - paycheck the price of gas and food increasing while income stays relatively stagnate. More and more are using credit to get by just for day to day stuff. With the current administration killing (killed) off any incentives for EVs along with a lack of charging infrastructure for them - the biggest being in apartments which is where many live due to the cost of buying a house is outrageous. How and what are they supposed to use for buying these more efficient vehicles ?
I’m not trying to be a dick with this its just not as easy as getting a more efficient car - and with gas prices continuing to go up more efficient cars will become more expensive and sought after as well.
I would hope to see a massive shift towards e-bikes… I have heard people talk about them. Have i seen anybody shift in that direction? No.
How and what are they supposed to use for buying these more efficient vehicles ?
Gee… it’s almost as if regardless of fuel costs, more efficient vehicles always make sense. This cyclical bullshit has been going on since the 70s, you would think idiots would have learned a lesson by now.
The modern American lifestyle is built from very sophisticated and aggressive marketing especially with vehicles. The lessons we have learned have never been around moderation (Thanks Reagan) but around consumption. Look at the backlash when the Prius first came on the market to see how people were shamed for buying something small and efficient. The brainwashing is real and deeply set. I agree with your assessment I hope that more people start looking at fuel efficient cars, but in America its a big economic and mental hill to climb.
If a bunch of the right dc fucks suddenly expire I bet the ones still around will waive their wand to placate the masses
