• avater@lemmy.world
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    Just as a little reality check for all Hamas “fans” (Hamas not Palestine!!) out here which are actually comparing them to Israel or openly defending them. The Hamas is founded on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which are a fairytale full of antisemitism and proven, false statements about Jews and how they are responsible for every bad thing that happens during the centuries and their diabolical plot for world domination (of course one of the favorite lecture of the Nazis)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

    Those idiots are really believing this fairytale and they use it to justify the murder of innocent people and Jews in general. So the next time you step in in defense of the Hamas or when you compare them to Israel, keep in mind that they are doing this because they believe in some antisemitic fairytale written by a crazy Russian back in the old days…they are basically Scientology only more degenerated and more violent.

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      You should also be asking the question–are Lemmy developers anti-semtic?

      This whole situation has seriously caused me to reconsider a great many things about Lemmy. I can’t support lemmy, at all, if they are pro-murdering terrorist (Hamas, ISIS, et al). The lemmy.ml instance (run by the developers) has serious foundational issues and to me, I am wondering who it is that is writing this software, and who is paying them.

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          It’s a problem for states that are supporting developers who are supporting terrorists.

      • InternetTubes@lemmy.world
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        There’s probably a great deal of involvement from bad actors who want to farm and exploit big data where they couldn’t before. I wouldn’t blame you, lemmy should be branched, but isn’t that what kbin.social is?

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          Kbin isn’t really a fork, but it does have a similar feature set.

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        If you were genuinely curious one of the devs has a massive manifesto. No need to speculate I’m pretty sure it covers every topic known to man.

        I don’t recall seeing anything particularly antisemitic but I was honestly so dumbfounded I wouldn’t know where to start looking.

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          So I went back because I was curious. Again it is a fucking wild ride, I suggest yall search it out. I’m not gonna post it because I don’t wanna bring any unnecessary bandwagoning. But I searched for anti-semitism real quick and found this:

          It proves absolutely nothing but it would be pretty weird to see the devs of lemmy cite anti-semitism as a reason Orwell was bad if they were also anti-semitic.

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        can you elaborate on this? I wonder if the situation is any other on a platform like reddit so I suppose it’s the people not the platform

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          From what I saw, there was one developer spouting some abhorant things, talking about how all Israeli citizens were targets at this point. I haven’t seen anything else about other developers sharing these views though so I’m considering it an isolated nutter until we see more

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          Lemmy has a huge tankie problem and it becomes really apparent when a situation like this comes up

          Why tankies/leftists think Palestine is in any way aligned with them is beyond me

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          Lemmy.ml is run by the developers on lemmy, and if you look at the modlog, it looks like the lemmy developers deleted comments then banned a shit ton of people who were not virulently anti-Israel. It is pretty shocking to me, as the anti-Israel stuff remained. Who are the developers, and who is paying them?

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        oh fuck right off with this poor attempt to derail the conversation! you know exactly what i’m talking about when I use the term antisemitism…

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            No it’s not, you’re dead wrong:

            Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who interpret it as referring to racist hatred directed at all “Semitic people” (i.e., those who speak Semitic languages, such as Arabs, Assyrians, and Arameans). This usage is erroneous; the compound word antisemitismus (lit. ‘antisemitism’) was first used in print in Germany in 1879 as a “scientific-sounding term” for Judenhass (lit. ‘Jew-hatred’), and it has since been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment alone.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism https://www.britannica.com/topic/anti-Semitism https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/combating-antisemitism/definition-antisemitism_en

            It really always amazes me how people like you are able top post really dumb shit like this while we are living in the age of technology where it is so easy to do a fact check in seconds from various trustful sources…I really can’t explain it, it’s either ignorance or you are doing it on purpose…

            • Madison420@lemmy.world
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              Nope, the etymology of “anti-Semitism” originates with one man named willhelm who used it specifically as a racial term though yes clearly a veiled commentary on Judaism. It didn’t however change the meaning of the word as used by its Creator.

              Google it’s etymology and get back to me about how “people like me” are.

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                And the swastika was originally a religious symbol in Eurasia.

                While true, it is a pointless fact that contributes nothing to the discussion as they are commonly used in a different way and understood by everybody. This is nothing more than derailing a discussion.

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                  Across the planet actually, notably American native populations used it.

                  That’s my point. Using “anti Semitic” as anti judaic is soft propaganda.

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                Can you please just fuck off and leave me alone with your antisemitic bullshit and false statements? Nevermind there is a blocking function for people like you…

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                  Anti judaic is what it would be, I’m not however bigoted in that manner. I hate both of these fucks and religion in general for excusing such behavior.

                  But no screech about how objective fact isn’t so because your fee fees got hurt by things I never said.

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        I want you to talk to 50 different people and ask them what “antisemitism” means. See how many even mention Arabs.

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        Arabic is a semitic language. This is like saying Bengalis and Irish folks are both of the same clade because Gailge and Bangla are both IE languages.