Eh, if it were easier to block an instance as a user, I’d be 100% with you instead of 95%.
There are instances that are batshit crazy. Since blocking an instance as a user just ain’t possible yet, I can see why defederation before trouble gets going is useful. Once the nasty side of the internet gets snowballing, it’s much harder to manage.
Troll, or serious extremist, some things are just cancerous.
These are good points but apparently it was just a community on that instance… The instance itself wasn’t the problem. You can in fact block a community as a user. People absolutely have the power to block the_Donald community on that instance on their own.
Yeah, admins need the power to block communities for all users on their instance. You don’t want to have a list for new users of “communities you might want to block”. They should be blocked for you, and the list of blocks should be publicly available.
Why can’t people decide for themselves? I don’t get the appeal of someone blocking something for me? A real turn off for me on lemmy so far. I get it for now since the tools aren’t there yet but long term if it continues to be an issue I’d probably have to self host or get out.
They can decide for themselves. They can run their own server or join a server that has few rules (although that server may get defederated by others).
That’s way more freedom than you get on non-federated social media.
It’s freedom in the loosest sense. As in there’s more options. Would it still be freedom if a government makes choices for you? I suppose if I have the means to move to a different country it technically still is. Still distasteful. I don’t know the people that run my instance. Why should I trust them to know what’s best? We’ll see how it shakes out.
Since blocking an instance as a user just ain’t possible yet
I don’t think that would solve the legal issue so it doesn’t really matter in many cases. Even if you personally blocked an instance, your home instance will still recieve copies of that instance as long as someone else is interacting with it. And with that comes the fear of unintentionally hosting something illegal on your instance becasue you have the copies from that other instance.
So again there would be no other solution than defederating.
Eh, if it were easier to block an instance as a user, I’d be 100% with you instead of 95%.
There are instances that are batshit crazy. Since blocking an instance as a user just ain’t possible yet, I can see why defederation before trouble gets going is useful. Once the nasty side of the internet gets snowballing, it’s much harder to manage.
Troll, or serious extremist, some things are just cancerous.
These are good points but apparently it was just a community on that instance… The instance itself wasn’t the problem. You can in fact block a community as a user. People absolutely have the power to block the_Donald community on that instance on their own.
Yeah, admins need the power to block communities for all users on their instance. You don’t want to have a list for new users of “communities you might want to block”. They should be blocked for you, and the list of blocks should be publicly available.
or hide communities from All by default, like how reddit hides certain subs from r/all
That’s already possible.
Blocking entire instances is. Not individual communities.
Why can’t people decide for themselves? I don’t get the appeal of someone blocking something for me? A real turn off for me on lemmy so far. I get it for now since the tools aren’t there yet but long term if it continues to be an issue I’d probably have to self host or get out.
They can decide for themselves. They can run their own server or join a server that has few rules (although that server may get defederated by others).
That’s way more freedom than you get on non-federated social media.
It’s freedom in the loosest sense. As in there’s more options. Would it still be freedom if a government makes choices for you? I suppose if I have the means to move to a different country it technically still is. Still distasteful. I don’t know the people that run my instance. Why should I trust them to know what’s best? We’ll see how it shakes out.
Because some problems require a hammer and others require orbital nukes…
This is a good point
I don’t think that would solve the legal issue so it doesn’t really matter in many cases. Even if you personally blocked an instance, your home instance will still recieve copies of that instance as long as someone else is interacting with it. And with that comes the fear of unintentionally hosting something illegal on your instance becasue you have the copies from that other instance.
So again there would be no other solution than defederating.