The only way I’m going to remodel my house is with enough cash to do it. And working extra hours is my only option to make that happen, even if it means 9-10 hour days in a factory then coming home and working on the house.
& I wouldn’t ever tell my boss this but it’s easy to roll into the shop at 6 AM and drink some coffee and sit around and bullshit a bit before starting the day.
It’s easy to say a union issue while removed from it but union jobs are few and far between in this type of manufacturing. Almost everyone I work with is pretty non-union, or are young kids right out of school. I mean there’s really only a few bigger panels shops in this whole city.
I’d probably agree with you on a more philosophical level, but reality is often different.
We are trying to educate each other about the general issues in our society, and to broaden insight. We are not preaching solutions for individuals, or making demands on anyone.
Each community has both a stated purpose and an evolved character, and each occurs within a broader context of politics and society. We discuss and contribute openly, beneath such context.
Your objection is not particularly accurate. I was explaining, against your earlier concern, that the intention is quite different from attacking individuals for how they approach their own circumstances, and from imposing over discussion any assumptions about such circumstances.
Even if certain contributions may appear superficially as personal, the deeper motive is most likely political or structural.
Overtime pay tho 😛
Overtime is best when organized with a union. Otherwise, it is being taken through scabbing.
The only way I’m going to remodel my house is with enough cash to do it. And working extra hours is my only option to make that happen, even if it means 9-10 hour days in a factory then coming home and working on the house.
& I wouldn’t ever tell my boss this but it’s easy to roll into the shop at 6 AM and drink some coffee and sit around and bullshit a bit before starting the day.
It’s easy to say a union issue while removed from it but union jobs are few and far between in this type of manufacturing. Almost everyone I work with is pretty non-union, or are young kids right out of school. I mean there’s really only a few bigger panels shops in this whole city.
I’d probably agree with you on a more philosophical level, but reality is often different.
The lack of unionization in your industry is by design.
Lemmy in general has a difficult time separating reality from “how it should be”. There’s a lot of preachers here.
We are trying to educate each other about the general issues in our society, and to broaden insight. We are not preaching solutions for individuals, or making demands on anyone.
That totally doesn’t not sound like a hive mind statement.
What else are we not being?
Each community has both a stated purpose and an evolved character, and each occurs within a broader context of politics and society. We discuss and contribute openly, beneath such context.
Your objection is not particularly accurate. I was explaining, against your earlier concern, that the intention is quite different from attacking individuals for how they approach their own circumstances, and from imposing over discussion any assumptions about such circumstances.
Even if certain contributions may appear superficially as personal, the deeper motive is most likely political or structural.
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