• Beej Jorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Firefox does something else very important: provide another rendering engine for the web. When that landscape homogenizes, you get IE6 all over again. And we never want to go back there.

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      Also I’d rather there was a separate option for additional privacy than it be the default.

      People who want the extra privacy can usually figure out what they need and how to get it. The average person, who just want basic browsing, will just switch back to chrome when websites break. They wont be able to figure out which setting to toggle off in order to fix the site

      Keep Firefox useful for most people while also building more privacy friendly features.

      If it’s something people SHOULD be using, have a popup explaining it and let people decide

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      1 year ago

      Also Firefox disables website pinging by default, unlike nearly all cromium based browsers where you can’t even disable it

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      It wouldn’t be terrible, as long as it’s based on an open source foundation. Although that depends on the specific open source license. As long as the engine can be forked, the worst of IE6 should be avoidable.

      But yes, with Opera moving to Blink, you’ve got really only two-ish browser engines. KHTML/WebKit/Blink and Gecko. WebKit/Blink are Open Source, but I think mostly BSD, so Apple/Google could migrate to a proprietary license easily.

      Gecko is MPL, which IIRC is somewhat Copyleft like the GPL, just a bit less stringent.

      With the Apple/Google impasse with WebKit/Blink, I think we should be able to avoid an IE6 situation, but I would feel better with a stronger Copyleft license.

      As much as I love Firefox, I think Firefox has less browser share than it did back in the IE6 days.

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      But also keep in mind that it couldn’t exist without Firefox/Mozilla existing. A world in which more people use Firefox over Chromium-based browsers is a better world.

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        ehhh debatable, mozilla still gets a lot of funding from google so they’re not as independent as you think. A better world wpuld be one where qtwebkit based browsers, chromium based browsers and firefox based browsers have the same market share.

        Unfortunately Apple stole qtwebkit and drove it into the grave so there’s little chance of that actually happening :(

        I still hold out hope though, and try to use Falkon whenever possible

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          A Mozilla dependent on Google seeing value in Firefox sending searches their way is at minimum as good as one in which Mozilla doesn’t exist and everybody uses Chromium-based browsers, by definition - and in practice, way better.

          But yes, more non-Blink engines in use in general would also be a better world. Alas, that, too, isn’t the world we live in.

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    Use Tor Browser if you want it dialed up to eleven. You’ll quickly find that it’s way more of a hassle to use, and also still pretty easy to accidentally compromise the security measures.

    Of course Firefox isn’t perfect; nothing is. But a 180 turn implies it’s the opposite of perfect now, and it really isn’t - especially in a world where basically every other browser is waaaay closer to that.

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    I’m much happier to install one of the dozens of adblock addons, than to disable the built in one and still install an addon. Cuz that would mean bloat. I want to have the options to choose the adblock I have installed, and not only which one I use.
    Builtin adblockers of other browsers, especially more commercial ones, have proven to be buyable by ad companies. They also fail, and have failed, on YouTube, where some addons still succeed.
    One could argue Mozilla could encourage the users to actively choose an adblocker, but that would mean annoying popups and basically ads for adblockers.

    Default FF with a few settings and addons is fine.