Excuse my ignorance im just curious.
Because we dont want to moderate porn, simple as that. Other instances are free to do this differently.
it’s blocked in your instance, others allow it
Is it really though?
@Marv IMO we need some NSFW instances. It wouldn’t be a problem with the rest of lemmy/kbin because it’s easy to filter out communities/magazine or entire instances.
There is a legitimate demand for NSFW content. And NSFW content can be a decisive factor in the success of a platform. (See Tumblr vs Twitter, photographs on instagram, etc.) Sex workers are also a vulnerable group and one of the goals of the fediverse is to provide a place for marginalized groups.
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@Marv
BUT, it needs moderation and moderating NSFW is hard, exhausting and time-consuming. Not everyone wants to do that. Also when I say NSFW content, it doesn’t have to be porn bot posting content they don’t own. It could be OC only, a photograph community that allows nude models, etc. Unlike porn dumps communities, those are important places to have.Edit: Also research the history of switter, it’s very interesting. And one of the big failures of the fediverse. We should learn from it.
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Hard to moderate. Brings influencers and bots. Doesn’t contribute anything that can’t be easily found elsewhere.
i hadnt really thought of it until now, and was kind of expecting lemmy/kbin to get infected with porn, but you state some great reasons. i want to be open that i have used porn subs in the past, and i think that porn should 100% be legal. every adult should have the right to express themselves as long as they are not infringing on someone else’s rights or safety.
before onlyfans, /r/gonewild was actually pretty appealing. once the amateur porn scene took off, reddit porn subs became advertisements (“check the comments for my onlyfans 😜🍑”) and spam bots reposting other people’s porn. i really would prefer to avoid that. if someone wants porn, they can go back to reddit or whatever porn dedicated site there is.
btw, i knew a girl who ran one of her own onlyfans-type things. i know it’s annecdotal so my one experience isn’t representative, but she ruined it for me. that girl was complete trash. she still lived with her parents at 24 years old with no ambition other than to live off of others. she proudly stated this. she didn’t work. she had multiple sugar daddies that would financially support her while she would insult them and her customers behind their backs openly to anyone that would listen to her garbage. she had multiple separate ig accounts, each dedicated to a sugar daddy. she would then friend her real friends to show off the “losers” that would support her. the rest of her sisters, while not as bad, were near the same level of toxicity: highly predatory, psychopathically manipulative, and vindictive af. they shared the same social circle that was all the same crap. i fully expect to see at least one of them in the news or jail blotter eventually. i ended up blocking them all on all avenues of communication and recorded me on video telling them that they arent allowed on my property. i also created a highly detailed journal of our interactions, recorded conversations, and kept evidence in case they ever felt like attacking me for setting boundaries.
anyway, in my experience, the persona we see them display on the internet is fake. they’re not some horny person just dying for some internet stranger to hook up with. theyre not a victim of the circumstances theyre trying to escape. they don’t get turned on by being “slutty” just for you. they get turned on by the power to manipulate others at other’s expense. that their real kink: abuse. it becomes disgusting.
again, i know not all online sex workers are this way, and there are certainly the fantastical pornstars and couple’s that aren’t terrible people but some definitely are horrible and we dont actually know which one is which because the public gets a false presentation of who they really are.
thanks for attending my ted talk. ill have a spicy chicken sandwich pls.
I’m surprised anyone would think their are being themselves… I thought everyone knew they are acting. But maybe not everyone knows this actually.
Maybe men are a bit stupid in this regard… Some of us get a bit brain freezed by a good looking woman.
Did you say good looking woman? Where?
Go set up your own instance and never raise this subject here again
Not sure why your getting downvoted. That’s the beauty of the fediverse lol
I think its the “never raise this subject here again” Comes off as a bit aggressive.
Absolutely fair, I see that now lol
Never realized this was a lemmy.ml post. Got confused with the downvote there. As beehaw where I’m from has no downvotes.
It’s really cool how it all works. I like beehaw. I have a user on there as well. I started with lemmy.ml so I’ve just been using it more.
Because that would end up making a good portion of potential users feel uncomfortable using the site. There is no lack of pornography on the Internet, go look at it elsewhere.
A great question, porn/sexuality is a great deal for many users (me, included) and Reddit tried to make them go away or at least hide them; I have no idea why is it not allowed in so many Lemmy instances (if not all of them) but I hope that changes in the not so far future, otherwise we’re going to be missing one of the biggest reasons people use Reddit and might not move to a Lemmy instance.
It’s not allowed in a lot of instances because the moderation is absolutely exhausting and sometimes NSFL material.
The only limiting factor here is admins + moderators of an instance willing to put themselves through that.
I have no idea what kind of person wants to do that sort of thing, but they do exist.
Perhaps we should send PMs to all the porn subreddit mods and ask them if they’d be interested in moderating a porn reddit on lemmy?
I’d be curious to know which porn subreddits are scheduled to go dark on the 12th. Are there any reddit porn connoisseurs here that can do that research and let us know which subreddits mods might be upset at reddit and interested in migrating here?
So we need two lists:
- List of porn subreddits with upset mods
- List of lemmy instances that would be down to host some porn communities
Somebody on reddit had a massively huge list of every sub that’s going dark, both sfw and nsfw. I can’t find it right now though :/
The list is here, but idk which are porn and which are not:
Good. There are lists of NSFW subreddits so you can find the intersect between the two lists, or you could use the GNU utility
curlto query each of the subreddits onold.reddit.com/r/<insert_subreddit_name>, usegrepto isolate responses that redirected tohttps://old.reddit.com/over18?dest=https%3A%2F%2Fold.reddit.com%2Fr%2F<insert_subreddit_name>and then thesedcommand to extract subreddit names only.Edit: Did just that; see my other comment or Reddit mirror for results
I’m sorry but I’m going to have to charge you $20 million for that curl on the reddit site :P
Many of us do not want porn, so it only makes sense that porn goes into specific instances that people who do not want porn can block out. It’s a freedom of choice thing.
Found the guy from reddit
Personally, I don’t see why we’d want to bring erotica to Lemmy.
There’s already an abundance to be found on other platforms. Why load moderators with the tasks of filtering porn? If one must watch porn so desperately – why not go to porn sites? I don’t see the point.
I find it better to use my imagination anyway. Not thinking any less of people who want to watch porn, you do you, but I find the industry itself rather appalling. In the end, I don’t see why we’d want to bring all trouble porn entails here.
Porn should be illegal. It destroys the meaning of sex. Porn is packed with human trafficking and exploitation. Porn wrecks one’s brain.
I pray that porn becomes illegal.
What do you mean when you say porn destroys the meaning of sex?
Your question is so off I advise you do research and meditate on your question.
You do realize that you’re asking something that is so far off from reality and what it means to a human being.
What a gaslight!
Your question is so off I advise you do research and meditate on your question.
@SugarApplePie literally repeats your own line back to yourself asking you to expand and suddenly it’s his question that is off.
When you respond like this it becomes apparent that you simply don’t know the answer. You reveal yourself.
You do realize that you’re asking something that is so far off from reality and what it means to a human being.
All you’ve accomplished here is condescension. Clearly he doesn’t realize or he wouldn’t have asked. It’s also clearly not a rare opinion judging by your initial post so why the pretense that he should already know?
I have to assume you’re just a troll because no rational person would respond like this.
You really can’t ignore the facts.
Gotta be honest, I expected a better and more thought-provoking answer than what is basically the same shit bigoted nuts throw when someone asks why they have a problem with queer people. With such incredible logic as
porn is as bad as hard drugs (because it is)
I can’t believe I didn’t immediately fully understand your genius. Next time save everyone the time and don’t bother replying if you have nothing to say.
You really can’t ignore the facts.
The fact that you use prayer for a social problem already tells me how wrecked your brain is.
while i don’t necessarily disagree that porn can destroy the meaning of sex and wreck one’s brain, i really would prefer the state stay out of my business. i think a better approach would be to provide education on how porn affects us and avenues to seek help should someone fall into an addiction. however, getting the state involved on what people can and cannot say is too much control for my comfort.
I understand your POV but porn is as bad as hard drugs (because it is). We clearly can’t regulate it given how many children get sucked into it. So letting government block this isn’t the same as government overstepping into other spheres of freedom.
Excessive freedom that hurts our species isn’t “freedom” but a hidden addictive trap that hurts us on a multi-generational level.
“Porn is as bad as drugs” is a privileged opinion of someone who’s never lost anyone to addiction.
Porn destroys families which in turn creates broken children that turn to drugs, including porn.
Suicide rate is high with men and their depression is fraught with addictions including porn.
You know what causes even more addiction to drugs than porn does? Fucking drugs do.
You know what destroys orders of magnitude more families than porn? Surprise! It’s fucking drugs, again.
Addiction requires a cage being attempted to be escaped. Porn and drugs are similar in the sense of trying to escape some sense of personal hardship. Both porn and drugs are an effect, not the cause.
