Vice President Kamala Harris said in a meeting Saturday with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi that Washington will not allow for the forced relocation of Palestinians or any redrawing of the current border of the Gaza Strip.

“Under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza,” Harris said, according to a statement from the vice president’s office.

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    This might be the first time I’ve heard a demand imposed on Israel from the US during this recent escalation. Hopefully, the first of many.

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    And what will the US do to prevent it then? Cut funding? Cut military aid? Declare War on Terror?

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    I mean, it’s just going to be like past big conflicts. Where Israel claims people were not forced to relocate.

    Folks won’t be “forced,” but their lives and their family’s lives will be at great risk if they don’t relocate - so a lot of people are going to relocate if they have the option. If they don’t, they’re basically sleeping on a shooting range.

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      By “past big conflicts” you mean the 48 war…? Because that’s the only war where that happened

      And you can reasonably assume that things are different from 70 years ago, and that nobody, not even Israel, wants Gaza now.

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    I don’t think Israel minds the borders of Gaza remaining as is, just as long as there aren’t any Palestinians living there. They’ll “voluntarily” relocate, for humanitarian reasons, since most of the infrastructure, houses, and hospitals happened to fall down.

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      The only ones who mind the borders of Gaza are Hamas and Islamic Jihad. They literally want all of Israel and Jews eradicated.

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          Ummm what? What’s propaganda about what he said? He just said Israel doesn’t want Gaza and that Hamas wants the entirety of Israel. Which is completely correct, no matter how you look at it.

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            No he said the only ones who mind the borders of Gaza are Hamas and PIJ. Meaning the people themselves don’t care. That’s completely wrong no matter how you look at it. Also many high-ranking Israeli officials have already expressed desire to expel all Gazans, and it’s reached the level of official consideration. Also see the other post where Israel says Gaza’s territory will go down after the war.

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              I still don’t see the point here, “mind the border” means that they’re the ones who wanna change the existing borders and take over Israel. You mean the people themselves want to take over Israel? If so I agree, I’m pretty sure that’s what Gazans want as well. But again that just doesn’t sound like propaganda to me, and sounds like the truth.

              And come on, of course Israel wants to expel all Gazans. They’re the literal worst neighbours to a country ever. But just like Hamas expressed their desire to kill all jews (desire and intent…) in Israel and take over, making an islamic jihadist state, they and Israel both can’t do that. They both hate each other, the difference is which one actually follows through the atrocities. Meanwhile, Hamas is winning in the “getting what they want” battle, given that Israel isn’t going to kick Gazans out for good.

              Blaming Israel for wanting to expel them is ignoring the fact that Hamas wants to murder Israel. It’s the biggest double standard.

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    Uh huh.

    And yet she’s giving Israel bombs to destroy people’s homes. Literally forcibly relocating them. Never mind that 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated from their land 75 years ago.

    These statements are just cover for more Israeli murder. It’s designed to make people feel complacent.

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      Wait so 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated, why 50% of Gaza are children under 18…

      Make up your mind over your made up numbers please.

      And calling this war “Israeli murder” is ignoring the existence of actual terrorists who keep innocent civilians hostage, and who targeted attacked and murdered over 1,000 innocents.

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          Oh damn I guess churchill is a murderer monster huh.

          Intention matters. The fact that you ignore it, is bad.

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            Yeah, when the IDF purposely bomb schools, hospitals, evacuation corridors which they told to evacuate through, UN facilitates, etc. that makes them murderers.

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              Dude those same civilian facilities are proven to store artillery. Once a site is being used for war purposes, don’t be surprised that it’s being destroyed - in a war.

              Everybody is criticizing Israel for bombing UN facilities, while no one critisizes Hamas for storing ammunition in said facilities. That’s just hypocrisy.

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          Oh so war is never justified then huh? When you’ve been massacared with intent for further destruction by that same people, you can’t retaliate, you’re just supposed to sit back and cry about it. Sure, ok.

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              “murder does not justify more murder”

              The murder which is happening is by a war. If you don’t know that, you’re living under a rock. And what I said, is that this war is justified. So yes, this is exactly what you said, you just deny it. War = murder. “Murder isn’t justified” -> “war isn’t justified”. Very simple logic.

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                  Whatever, I really don’t care about what you think. You can blame it all on one side, ignoring the ruthlessness of the other on their enemies and even on their own citizens. Just ignore Hamas hiding guns in schools, ignore them firing rockets from public parks, ignore them targeting civilians (with no military infrastructure/personnel). Just ignore it all, and blame the jews for everything. Just like the 1930s. “War crimes” my ass. If you really cared about war crimes you would’ve complained to Hamas, not the IDF.

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      Lol what? Does anyone here think anyone in Israel is going to kill 2 million Gazans? It’s like no one here knows the difference between mass killings and wars. You don’t evacuate civilians in mass killings, you slaughter them in their homes (sort of like what Hamas did on 7/10)

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    Um… They’ve already been pushed out of their homes and relocated. That was under the “circumstance” of Israel invading and killing them. I don’t think the phrase “under no circumstances” applies here.