Steam no longer supports Windows 7, 8, and 8.1::Customers sticking to the good-old (and dead) Windows 7 now have one more reason to ditch the operating system: as of January 1, 2024, Steam no longer supports Windows 7, 8, and 8.1.

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    1 year ago

    This isn’t Steam’s fault. The OS is dead because Microsoft killed it (as part of their ongoing planned-obsolescence operating system program). There is no conceivable way Steam can maintain security for anyone’s account on an OS that hasn’t received security updates for three years.

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      Nothing unusual about cutting the cord at some point when major updates introduce big enough differences that it becomes a pain to make sure things stay compatible. Same thing happen with any OS.

      I swear some people around here must be mad that Microsoft doesn’t release Windows 98 updates anymore…

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        Microsoft doesn’t stop you from playing the games that already ran on your Windows 98 computer either. False equivelance.

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          Then don’t buy your games on Steam if you don’t like the way they do business, you’ve got other options, vote with your wallet and only buy DRM free games.

          You still wouldn’t be able to play those Windows 98 games if they were bought on Steam, because they’ve stopped supporting that OS ages ago and for good reasons. It doesn’t support modern tech, it doesn’t receive security updates, there’s no point wasting money on supporting it, just like there’s no point wasting money on supporting an OS that hasn’t received a security update in close to a year and that less than 2% of users are using until they finally move on to the next version.

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            Then don’t buy your games on Steam if you don’t like the way they do business, you’ve got other options, vote with your wallet and only buy DRM free games.

            I wasn’t expecting they would take away the games I legally purchased.

            You’re really okay with Steam being able to take away all the games you purchased whenever it feels like doing this? A rich asshole like Elon Musk could buy Steam and shut it down just to fuck with people, saying he just wanted the employees or some piece of tech. You wouldn’t complain at all if that happened?

            You still wouldn’t be able to play those Windows 98 games if they were bought on Steam

            That’s why I buy them on GOG and not Steam.

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              That’s why I buy them on GOG and not Steam.

              So all your stupid posturing in this thread was just to bait people into an argument with you?

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                1 year ago

                Nope. You are contributing nothing, so I’d rather you didn’t argue.

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                  1 year ago

                  Well, it only took me one comment to contribute nothing, you needed like two dozen comments for that

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                    1 year ago

                    Actually I learned there is a Steam DRM emulator. I also learned that I definitely do not want to give Steam any more money because they reserve the right to steal your entire game library at any time. So this has been very productive for me.

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              Look at the EULA, you’re not buying the game, you’re buying the right to play it and that right can be taken from you at any time, that’s been the main criticism against the switch to digital platforms from the moment Steam started existing and if you had taken 30 seconds to think about it you would have realized it. Heck, just the fact that you can get banned from Steam and lose access to your library should have made that pretty fucking clear!

              That's why I buy them on GOG and not Steam.

              Make up your fucking mind, do you or do you not buy games on Steam?

              GOG didn’t exist in 2003, Steam supported Windows 9x then and one day they stopped supporting it, so you probably have games on it that went from being playable to not being playable on W98 or XP or Vista. You never stopped to think about that when deciding to continue running an OS that reached its end of life?

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                Look at the EULA, you’re not buying the game, you’re buying the right to play it and that right can be taken from you at any time, Heck, just the fact that you can get banned from Steam and lose access to your library should have made that pretty fucking clear!

                WOW WTF??. That does it. I will definitely not give Steam another dime.

                That’s why I buy them on GOG and not Steam. Make up your fucking mind, do you or do you not buy games on Steam?

                I bought many games that originally played on Win 98 you were talking about on GOG and play them on Win 10.

                I stupidly bought Axis and Allies Online a week ago on Steam. Learned I cannot play it on Windows 7 after one week. Then learned I could have bought it on GOG instead without the ridiculous DRM.

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      1 year ago

      There is no conceivable way Steam can maintain security for anyone’s account

      Then they need to drop the DRM nonsense and let people use their desktop applications/games that they purchased.

      It IS Steam’s fault that Steam forces people to use a DRM system which they then shut down. Who else’s fault would it be?

      It’s not Google’s fault that Steam forces people to use a DRM system which they then shut down.

      It’s not Microsoft’s fault that Steam forces people to use a DRM system which they then shut down.

      It’s not Windows 7/8 user’s fault that Steam forces people to use a DRM system which they then shut down.

      I can play GOG games without using GOG. The least that Steam can do is created a lightweight app that let’s users play the games that they have already installed on their computer. Forget about “security” and “accounts”. Just don’t get in the way of users running their own games on their own computers.

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        1 year ago

        You want Valve to develop a version of Steam that circumvents their own DRM to play local files? What would prevent people from using that to pirate things even more easily? I can imagine they’d have some trouble with publishers as well for doing that. There are already largely standardized cracks for steam and emulators for steam; just use that. Regardless, no solution will work for any game using DRM other than Steam, like Denuvo, so you’ll have to rely on pirates for those regardless.

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          You want Valve to develop a version of Steam that circumvents their own DRM to play local files? Yes, exactly. They owe people that.

          What would prevent people from using that to pirate things even more easily? Dunno. Maybe make it not work on win 10+.