Has replaceable battery, ARM64 architecture, sim card slot, USB OTG support, sd card slot, uab type c and no front camera. Ships to europe. Also, I don’t want most of the budget to go for the camera.
minimum: • decent charging and internet send/recieve speed • multi-touch • android 8 or 9 • no annoying bloatware and restrictions (unless can be disabled with ADB) • 2gb ram (1gb free average or less) • 16gb storage (max 8gb system usage) • 60hz refresh rate • 16:9 aspect ratio • screen that can be dimmed to very very dark • can emulate nds games at 50-60fps • very long battery life (8 hours wih airplane mode off) • Runs well 8 years
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Your best bet is to get a pixel 6a and flash CalyxOS on it, there is no way you’re getting a modern brand new phone (which is what I gathered from other comments), with these requirements. Calyx gets rid of everything you’d call “more garbage”, comes with all the tools you’d need for a secure phone and allows you to disable access to hardware such as the microphone and camera. I also read you didn’t want custom ROMs.
Here’s the deal, any phone made by a company with more employees than two is going to have some sort of data collection in it, if you want a phone that doesn’t have any, either get a Linux phone (which won’t do anything you want it to) or a pixel with a security and privacy oriented rom on it. Some other options are lineageOS, comes with opt-in data collection, not opt-out, has years of security updates and supports a great deal of modern phones, doesn’t come with Google apps by default and if you want, you can disable internet access to apps individually, grapheneOS also exists, similar to CalyxOS. If none of this is good enough for you, then idk what to tell you, but you’re not going to find what you’re looking for exactly.
The modern android world can’t give you a high end 16:9 60hz phone with 2gb of ram, no front camera and 8 hours of screen on time and official security and feature updates for 8 years, that’s simply not how it works anymore, you can say you want something like that, but unless you make it yourself it’s not going to appear out of thin air.
I hope this post wasn’t too rude, but with requirements like these you’re setting yourself up for disappointment, I made this post to make you realise how impossible this actually is.
Oh and for DS games, crazy idea, buy a DSi and install unlaunch on it, it’ll launch any DS game you want and it’ll cost you 40 USD at most
no front camera
That sounds impossible, I don’t think that even exists now.
Android 8 or 9
Really, next thing you’ll want are Windows 7 PCs? All these OSes are no longer supported, no one is going to sell that new.
I unfortunely agree with your first point. I prefer older OSes because newer ones are usually filled with more garbage.
Of course you’re allowed your opinion, but what exactly are you referring to with by “more garbage”? Are you sure you’re not taking about bloatware installed by phone/carrier companies that’s completely separate from the actual operating system? Also, just like PC operating systems/there are OSes designed to be extremely lightweight, with low system requirements.
Security-wise, using any older OS is a terrible idea, IMO. As long as any personal information will ever pass through that phone, that is. Even if someone discovered a way to remotely hack your phone, eavesdrop on all your interactions, and steal your information, it wouldn’t be patched, even if the vulnerabilities were published. These old OSes literally aren’t supported anymore.
With that said, I wish you good luck in what you’re searching for…
I mean TTS, “Phone Boosters”, animations and other things I don’t need.
Not everyone wants to void their warranty or risk making their phones unuseable.
Someome being able to remotely hijack a device that is running an os built by Google doesn’t make sense. I don’t know exploits that work like this.
Just because it’s made by Google doesn’t mean literally anything. Google hacks happen literally all the time.
Just heed the warning and slap new Android on it or an up-to-date alternative OS. Otherwise you’re pretty likely to get gotten
I don’t understand it so nobody does
Just because you don’t understand what security patches are doesn’t mean your phone can’t be exploited, especially when it’s running an os that’s half a decade old.
Explain how my phone can get hacked then
There are literally hundreds of security vulnerabilities in Android 8 and 9.
Several of which allow remote code execution (meaning if exploited, attacker would have full control of your device, likely without you knowing). These vulnerabilities can be exploited a number of different ways, for example, this one would just require that your Bluetooth radio is turned on- https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2021-0316/
This one just requires that you open a text message an attacker sends you- https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2020-8899/
This one just requires NFC on your device to be on (which most phones have and is usually on by default) https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2020-0073/
Don’t run old OSes. 90% of the reason new versions come out is to fix these issues.
Thanks for the effort but i still prefer non-bloated OSes with less data collection. I don’t see anyone complaining about their device being remotely hijacked outside the internet.
the garbage widely known as “security updates”
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I don’t store that much data on my phone. I rathee play games on a pc. Less risk for me
2 GB RAM will seriously hamper usability with modern (admittedly often bloated) apps, many of which may not even run on Android 8 or 9. No system will leave 1 GB free on average. Why should it? What good is RAM if it isn’t used?
Got curious with your specs and I plugged it in to gsmarena advance search filter.
I got 10 results, though most of it was released in 2020. The latest one released (Jan 2022) was Nokia C100 priced at USD59.99. I think it has most of your wishlist, though I’m not familiar with ARM64 architecture and OTG wasn’t a filter option.
Good luck with your search!
Thanks. :)
Have you considered buying a used phone?
There are some pretty good deals on ebay.
Chances of getting scammed are bigger. No, thanks
I’m not sure what experience you’ve had but eBay does quite well on buyer protection. Same goes for Swappa. Can’t speak for either website in non-US countries though
Are you speaking from experience?
Such low specs should be easily available on the used market well under $100. As to “no bloatware”, see if you can find one supported by lineageOS or another alternative system.
I don’t think anyone will make any predictions about the next 8 years. Replaceable battery was fairly common at the time they made phones with the specs you are looking for.
A bigger problem will be “no front camera” (almost unheard of), and USB C on a phone with Android 8 or 9, only 2 GB RAM and 16 GB storage. Most of these will be so old that they come with Micro-USB.
Many companies would try to appeal to poorer users. Even if the device has to be filled with adware and data miners.
