Bill Gates says a 3-day work week where ‘machines can make all the food and stuff’ isn’t a bad idea::“A society where you only have to work three days a week, that’s probably OK,” Bill Gates said.

  • kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    Assuming the owners of those machines don’t restrict the people’s access to that “food and stuff”

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    2 years ago

    Crap, now all the braindead covid conspiracy theorists are going to roll this into their “15 minite cities are open air prisons” conspiracies

    • Sagifurius@lemm.eeBanned
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      I mean…isn’t your pattern recognition starting to ring a little bit?

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        No.

        Because I’m not under the self-important delusion that everything is part of a grand conspiracy out to get me.

        • Sagifurius@lemm.eeBanned
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          It doesn’t ever matter to you people how obvious it becomes over time. Like three years ago when a ridiculous number of people seemed to beleive the policies then wouldn’t result in the reality now, no matter how hard we tried to tell you.

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            I have learned over the years that reasoned discussion is impossible at this point. You are firmly fixed on your opinions, and I am moderately fixed with mine, and the gulf in between is large.

            So I will simply bid you good day.

            • Sagifurius@lemm.eeBanned
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              I’ve not stated an opinion or theory. I asked if you can think.

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        My pattern recognition tells me there are faces in clouds too, should i believe in cloud giants?

        • Sagifurius@lemm.eeBanned
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          Yes you should, that’s totally the same thing as recognizing trends over time.

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    It’s not a bad idea, but it also can’t exist without a complete re-haul of what it means to live in modern society. Right now, replacing workers and cutting hours means people don’t have enough money to live. That is not an acceptable result of automation. I’m not qualified enough to have a reasonable solution to this, but I know it needs to be addressed before we get to that point.

    • Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works
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      I do wonder if this is even a money thing as even OpenAI has warned investors that money in the future is not certain. Maybe we are going to be forced to look to alternatives other than money as the means of value?

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      Such a nice little stoner billionaire /s.

      Don’t humanize these assholes. It’s the reason why he says stuff like this. He’s a wealth hoarding bastard that fucked a lot of people over to get where he’s at. If he thought it was a good idea he could easily just start a big trial somewhere. But he doesn’t. Instead he sits on his mountain of money and says cute shit for idiots to drool over instead of taxing him.

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        2 years ago

        I’m more on the side of Marx’s character mask argument on people like Bill. That’s why I can make shitpost comments like mine even without liking him all too much.

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          Can you give me a summary why character masks make this cutesy billionaire shit ok?

          I’m not confident enough in my knowledge about Marx‘s ideas to be arguing about that.

          I think I got a grasp on the basics, capitalism creates societal positions like owners and workers, and Bill slipped into the mask of an owner.

          But to me that does not mean that humanizing the billionaire class is a good thing. I’d rather say it makes it a worse thing, as it takes away incentives for lower classes to change the system and get rid of the owner class. How do we get anywhere close to equality if people see good ole Bill and Daddy Elon, instead of the ruthless oligarchs that they are?

          But like I said, I don’t have a good grasp on this theory so would be happy to be corrected/have it explained to me ;)

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            It’s not like I’m a scholar on the subject or anything, but to my mind the key thing you said is “changing the system”. That’s the prerequisite for achieving a more just society. You can hate on the owner class all you want, simply getting rid of them will not necessarily overthrow societal power relations. New billionaires will rise, capitalism will not die along with the last rich white dude.

            I would even go so far as to say that hating on the owning class kind of deflects from analyzing the contradictions and ideologies produced by capitalist societies themselves. This especially shows in certain sorts of reactionary political movements, who have no problem with capitalism as long as it feeds their nationalist ambitions instead of some globalist billionaire jet-set often described as Jewish.

            My comment wasn’t really aimed at humanizing him, I only wanted to poke fun at him although I can see where you’re coming from.

            • Augustiner@lemmy.world
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              Thanks for the answer, definitely is an interesting perspective! I’ll look more into the masks. And I wholeheartedly agree on the part about reactionaries using these kind of strategies. Something just throws me off about the weird folksy way we see a lot of these guys… be it Daddy Elon or Uncle Bill or Cowboy Jeff, framing them as quirky characters in the reality tv show that is our news media distracts from the real issues that each of those guys represent.