My problem is not their design but the fact they are Google phones, as I boycott Google. Also second hand Pixels are hard to acquire for a reasonable price…
Swappa.com is the place to go. You can find them new in the box there for less than the Google store or if you’re willing to go used they’re even cheaper. Plus you have PayPal protection as a buyer. I’ve bought and sold phones on there since like 2014 (I think I’ve bought 8-9 phones and sold roughly the same amount on there without any issues)
Graphene OS drops support for devices pretty soon after Google does. It’s not a good idea to buy anything before Pixel 6 to run Graphene OS right now (see https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices)
This will get better going forward since Google is supporting the Pixel phones for much longer (5 years for the Pixel 6/6a onward, 7 years for the newest devices).
@gigachad@syd
GrapheneOS wird exklusiv für Google Pixel-Geräte entwickelt - andere Geräte werden nicht unterstützt. Hintergrund dieser Einschränkung sind die hohen Sicherheitsanforderungen von GrapheneOS. Die folgenden Anforderungen werden derzeit nur von Google Pixel Geräten vollständig erfüllt:
My problem is not their design but the fact they are Google phones, as I boycott Google. Also second hand Pixels are hard to acquire for a reasonable price…
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So you shouldn’t really be using any Android phone then…
What, and use Apple? Linux phones aren’t usable yet, and at least android is open source so using a non google Android phone doesn’t support Google.
Swappa.com is the place to go. You can find them new in the box there for less than the Google store or if you’re willing to go used they’re even cheaper. Plus you have PayPal protection as a buyer. I’ve bought and sold phones on there since like 2014 (I think I’ve bought 8-9 phones and sold roughly the same amount on there without any issues)
Swappa is unfortunately US-only. Looking at OP’s account I believe they’re based in Germany.
Oh. I didn’t realize that OP was in Germany.
They are not hard to acquire, and they only have an “unreasonable price” if they are recent models.
You won’t have any trouble finding a second-hand Pixel 5.
I recently bought a Pixel 4a at 120€ / 131$
Graphene OS drops support for devices pretty soon after Google does. It’s not a good idea to buy anything before Pixel 6 to run Graphene OS right now (see https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices)
This will get better going forward since Google is supporting the Pixel phones for much longer (5 years for the Pixel 6/6a onward, 7 years for the newest devices).
Guess that depends on what you mean by reasonable.
The 5 is $130 as refurb, with warranty, from walmart. It was $699 new.
If you want a newer phone, well, it’s gonna cost more. Just like brand new phones.
If their price is still “high”, that simply reflects their desireabilty, probably from a balance of features and performance by price.
@gigachad @syd
GrapheneOS wird exklusiv für Google Pixel-Geräte entwickelt - andere Geräte werden nicht unterstützt. Hintergrund dieser Einschränkung sind die hohen Sicherheitsanforderungen von GrapheneOS. Die folgenden Anforderungen werden derzeit nur von Google Pixel Geräten vollständig erfüllt: