• masquenox@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Your unwillingness to acknowledge it doesn’t make it any less true - the US was built on white supremacism. Whether it can actually exist without white supremacism is an unknown and perhaps worth debating - but what it is right now is no mystery.

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        It can though. What kind of white supremacist country would have let a black man named Barack Obama anywhere near presidency? Then elected him twice? My boss is black, next door neighbors are black, some of the coolest actors in hollywood are black. It’s not 1864 anymore and race is quickly becoming irrelevant. The last thing we need is another way to divide people up while the rich sit back and watch the infighting.

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          What kind of white supremacist country would have let a black man named Barack Obama anywhere near presidency?

          The fact that the US is failing at repressing black people doesn’t mean the US isn’t inherently white supremacist - just like the fact that the US was defeated in Vietnam and Afghanistan doesn’t mean the US isn’t fundamentally a colonialist empire. In both cases, the answer is in the affirmative - the US is fundamentally white supremacist and it is fundamentally colonialist. The fact that it has failed at both on many occasions doesn’t negate the truth of that. Apartheid-South Africa was similarly fundamentally white supremacist - the fact that it failed to repress it’s black population doesn’t suddenly mean that Apartheid-South Africa wasn’t fundamentally white supremacist.

          You seem to believe that the fact that the long struggle black (and other people) have had to wage in the US simply to be seen as human (somehow) “proves” that the US isn’t fundamentally white supremacist while completely ignoring the blatantly obvious reason why such struggles was necessary in the first damn place and are still ongoing.

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            It’s actually wealth supremacist, formerly white supremacist. The previous state of things left us with the high white representation amongst the wealthy but there is no exclusion from wealth by race today. I can only wish I had even half the money Will Smith has. He’s in the wealth club and we’re not.

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          LMAO “we solved racism cuz Obama”

          The US is still a white supremacists nation where white lives are placed above non-black lives, you can bury your head in the sand but systemic racism is very much real.

          You can pretend you care about class, but if you’re analysis of the material conditions ignore the fundamental structure of the US, you’re not helping anyone.