How is that different than now? DnD fell apart because Hasbro is a world stage corporation, they’re just trading it to another world stage corporation which will kill it further until they pass it on too.
But now it’s being bought by a global corporation that’s run by non-white people, and that’s scarier for reasons that I refuse to interrogate further.
Edit: From the replies, the downvotes on this appear to be a fairly clean split between people who think I’m actually being sincerely racist, and the people that think I’m defending tencent.
The people who think I’m being sincere apparently can read “reasons that I refuse to interrogate further” and think that’s something a sincerely racist person would say. The people who think I’m defending the corporation are apparently just inventing things I haven’t said whole-cloth.
Whether any of these people are feeling called out for thinking tencent is especially evil in comparison to companies they’re more familiar with but have never interrogated that feeling any further is something we may never know, since such people are avoiding interrogating their own feelings and will not be able to admit to them.
Nobody was trying to make this about race except you my man. That was the very first place your mind went. Which probably isn’t a coincidence because, in my experience, the people screaming look at me look at me I’m not racist usually turn out to be the most racist motherfuckers you will ever deal with.
Its in general about their properties and how they handle them. I seriously doubt most of the people here, other then race obsessed people like you, could even tell you where tencent is based. Could even tell you who the nationality of the people in charge are. I sure as fuck can’t. I have heard the name several times in the past but, honestly, until I saw you posting this I thought they were an American company.
Because, you know, I don’t obsessively check the race of everything before I make a decision about it.
You didn’t explain what about Tencent was bad in any clear way, and you didn’t compre it to Hasbro, so you haven’t answered the question.
And last time I saw Tencent brought up it was about their investment in Epic, and there were loads of comments about social credit and winnie the pooh. It’s not hard to notice the problem.
Contrary to what a lot of racists would like you to believe, noticing racism is not the real racism. But do go off about how much I’m virtue signalling.
The big issue is they are just another huge shitty corp that will bring no value, and more importantly will 100% be sitting on this property for a very long time. If it got sold people would hope it would go to someone good, someone who would bring something positive too the property, people who might turn things around and put real heart and soul into it.
Ok so…YOUR TURN! You are defending tencent so hard, making it so clear anyone who doesn’t like the poor company is only against them because of racism. There has to be something amazing about them that you know that will change all of our minds? Because, honestly, right now I’m reminded of all the ‘if you didn’t like the movie it means your sexist’ crap we got with girl ghostbusters.
Who’s saying Tencent owning D&D is worse than Hasbro owning D&D?
Hasbro has thoroughly fucked D&D over. My expectation is that Tencent will find different and novel ways to fuck D&D over. I doubt Tencent will be significantly better or worse for D&D than Hasbro. But then D&D (and WotC more generally) was mostly beyond redemption before news that Hasbro was trying to sell it off.
The comment I replied to was asking that exact question, and I was pointing out that the only reason to think they are any different is probably rooted in racism, as a lot of the panic surrounding tencent has been in my experience.
Joncash2’s comment? Please explain the 4-dimensional calculus by which you interpreted that comment to have said anything about Tencent being worse (for D&D or just in general) than Hasbro (or better, for that matter).
Something about the way you worded the first paragraph makes it read as if you are stating your opinion and not mocking the reason most people go “Tencent bad”. I had to re-read a couple times to understand it. I do agree with your critique.
I genuinely can’t decide if this is being downvoted by people who think I’m being sincere, people who don’t like their racism being called out, people who think I’m defending a global corporation, or people who think I’m a tankie. Maybe it’s a mix of all four.
What reasonable person could read your post as anything but sincere racism? An “/s” goes a long way.
(Though I’m not sure in this case that would have been enough to keep you from getting downvotes. Would have made your post sound like you thought everyone who thought Tencent owning D&D was a bad thing thought so for racist reasons.)
A reasonable person might read the phrase “for reasons I refuse to interrogate further” and realise that’s far too self-aware for an openly racist person to say.
But you apparently noticed that I said “interrogate” and you think I… used it wrong? I am genuinely curious what you think that word means in the context of that phrase, and what you think the phrase itself means.
I downvoted it because it’s racism out of nowhere. Whether you’re being pro-racist or ironically anti-racist hardly matters, it’s just an unwelcome and unwarranted jump to this subject that nobody cared about.
I get the spirit of the comment, but among people who often play multiple TTRPGs almost no one would call D&D their favorite. I would be worried if Tencent (or Hasbro) bought Arc Dream or Evil Hat, but in practice the John Harpers of the world leave and start another company using their corporate lucre. In fact that’s where Paizo started, from people peeling off of D&D after Hasbro acquired it.
Tabletop games are such a functionally cheap product to create and sell it’s impossible to truly stomp out competition. Tencent would have to buy Twitch and YouTube and disallow any other game, and even then every nerd convention in the world would have some guy selling stapled together zines that rips D&D a new asshole.
Everything about that is absolute cancer.
Everyone’s favorite TTRPG going world stage corporate. Fucking yay…
How is that different than now? DnD fell apart because Hasbro is a world stage corporation, they’re just trading it to another world stage corporation which will kill it further until they pass it on too.
Whatever you remember liking is long long dead.
But now it’s being bought by a global corporation that’s run by non-white people, and that’s scarier for reasons that I refuse to interrogate further.
Edit: From the replies, the downvotes on this appear to be a fairly clean split between people who think I’m actually being sincerely racist, and the people that think I’m defending tencent.
The people who think I’m being sincere apparently can read “reasons that I refuse to interrogate further” and think that’s something a sincerely racist person would say. The people who think I’m defending the corporation are apparently just inventing things I haven’t said whole-cloth.
Whether any of these people are feeling called out for thinking tencent is especially evil in comparison to companies they’re more familiar with but have never interrogated that feeling any further is something we may never know, since such people are avoiding interrogating their own feelings and will not be able to admit to them.
Nobody was trying to make this about race except you my man. That was the very first place your mind went. Which probably isn’t a coincidence because, in my experience, the people screaming look at me look at me I’m not racist usually turn out to be the most racist motherfuckers you will ever deal with.
“If no one explicitly mentions that their feelings are about race, then they’re not about race!”
So like… what’s it about then? Can you explain why Tencent is worse than Hasbro?
Its in general about their properties and how they handle them. I seriously doubt most of the people here, other then race obsessed people like you, could even tell you where tencent is based. Could even tell you who the nationality of the people in charge are. I sure as fuck can’t. I have heard the name several times in the past but, honestly, until I saw you posting this I thought they were an American company.
Because, you know, I don’t obsessively check the race of everything before I make a decision about it.
You didn’t explain what about Tencent was bad in any clear way, and you didn’t compre it to Hasbro, so you haven’t answered the question.
And last time I saw Tencent brought up it was about their investment in Epic, and there were loads of comments about social credit and winnie the pooh. It’s not hard to notice the problem.
Contrary to what a lot of racists would like you to believe, noticing racism is not the real racism. But do go off about how much I’m virtue signalling.
The big issue is they are just another huge shitty corp that will bring no value, and more importantly will 100% be sitting on this property for a very long time. If it got sold people would hope it would go to someone good, someone who would bring something positive too the property, people who might turn things around and put real heart and soul into it.
Ok so…YOUR TURN! You are defending tencent so hard, making it so clear anyone who doesn’t like the poor company is only against them because of racism. There has to be something amazing about them that you know that will change all of our minds? Because, honestly, right now I’m reminded of all the ‘if you didn’t like the movie it means your sexist’ crap we got with girl ghostbusters.
Seriously, I’ve asked why they’re worse than Hasbro several times now and nobody is addressing it. Answer the question please.
Who’s saying Tencent owning D&D is worse than Hasbro owning D&D?
Hasbro has thoroughly fucked D&D over. My expectation is that Tencent will find different and novel ways to fuck D&D over. I doubt Tencent will be significantly better or worse for D&D than Hasbro. But then D&D (and WotC more generally) was mostly beyond redemption before news that Hasbro was trying to sell it off.
Have you read the comments? Like, actually read them? For understanding? For tone?
The comment I replied to was asking that exact question, and I was pointing out that the only reason to think they are any different is probably rooted in racism, as a lot of the panic surrounding tencent has been in my experience.
Joncash2’s comment? Please explain the 4-dimensional calculus by which you interpreted that comment to have said anything about Tencent being worse (for D&D or just in general) than Hasbro (or better, for that matter).
Something about the way you worded the first paragraph makes it read as if you are stating your opinion and not mocking the reason most people go “Tencent bad”. I had to re-read a couple times to understand it. I do agree with your critique.
Have an upvote for scarcasm
Delete this.
I genuinely can’t decide if this is being downvoted by people who think I’m being sincere, people who don’t like their racism being called out, people who think I’m defending a global corporation, or people who think I’m a tankie. Maybe it’s a mix of all four.
What reasonable person could read your post as anything but sincere racism? An “/s” goes a long way.
(Though I’m not sure in this case that would have been enough to keep you from getting downvotes. Would have made your post sound like you thought everyone who thought Tencent owning D&D was a bad thing thought so for racist reasons.)
And you misused the word “interrogate.”
A reasonable person might read the phrase “for reasons I refuse to interrogate further” and realise that’s far too self-aware for an openly racist person to say.
But you apparently noticed that I said “interrogate” and you think I… used it wrong? I am genuinely curious what you think that word means in the context of that phrase, and what you think the phrase itself means.
I downvoted it because it’s racism out of nowhere. Whether you’re being pro-racist or ironically anti-racist hardly matters, it’s just an unwelcome and unwarranted jump to this subject that nobody cared about.
I get the spirit of the comment, but among people who often play multiple TTRPGs almost no one would call D&D their favorite. I would be worried if Tencent (or Hasbro) bought Arc Dream or Evil Hat, but in practice the John Harpers of the world leave and start another company using their corporate lucre. In fact that’s where Paizo started, from people peeling off of D&D after Hasbro acquired it.
Tabletop games are such a functionally cheap product to create and sell it’s impossible to truly stomp out competition. Tencent would have to buy Twitch and YouTube and disallow any other game, and even then every nerd convention in the world would have some guy selling stapled together zines that rips D&D a new asshole.
Tl;dr: I don’t give a shit if Tencent buys D&D.