Belgian officials expressed outrage Thursday after Israeli forces reportedly bombed the office building of the Belgian Agency for Development Cooperation in the Gaza Strip, an attack that came after Belgium declined to join the U.S. and more than a dozen other countries in cutting off funding to the United Nations’ Palestinian refugee agency.
The timing of the attack on the Belgian office building raised eyebrows, with observers pointing to the nation’s status as one of the handful of Western countries not suspending aid to the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) in response to Israel’s allegation that a dozen of the agency’s employees took part in the October 7 attacks.
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Provide some proof for those you want to convince
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You never responded to any of the points called out in the article you linked. You can’t post something, and be mad when no one “believes your truth”. If you do, you’re not asking to change people’s minds, you just want to shout into the void too.
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In this situation, convincing people is not an option.
No matter what I post here they’ll say it’s fake.
I know this from actual educational materials that were given to me by soldiers actually took it from kindergartens in Gaza. Pictures I saw from phones and talking to the people who were actually there.
But for the protocol, https://docs.house.gov/meetings/FA/FA17/20240130/116769/HMTG-118-FA17-Wstate-NeuerH-20240130.pdf
“UN Watch” is an israeli propaganda think-tank that is known for making up and repeating lies about the entire UN being anti-semitic.
You don’t have to hide their propaganda in a white-house link. Pretty sad state of affairs that the US covers their material in meetings.
For anyone curious just go to their front page. Whatever is on it today will prove my point https://unwatch.org/
Challenge accepted.
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Oof. Yep. Blatant propaganda.
It gets funnier the further you scroll down. With quotes like
And their use of factual news sources such as
So I read the letter and the report. I don’t think it proves enough to support their case for shutting down UNRWA.
First, from the letter:
That’s evidently not an effort to view the context impartially. They may have been indoctrinated, but there is also the context of Palestinians’ experience over decades. Whatever your views, this is relevant context that this letter conspicuously overlooks.
This wording is vague. How many of the members do this? We’re all members of Lemmy communities where some people say offensive things. We don’t all agree with everything any member says. Is the Telegram group like this? I don’t see the report establishing that these aren’t just “a few bad apples” (the response they say they have had from UNRWA).
I followed the link they cite, via X/Twitter to an English article and the original source. They’re quoting him out of context and it’s misleading. He’s not saying this at all for the same reasons as UN Watch are. Here’s what he said:
He’s arguing that the existence of UNRWA keeps alive unrealistic dreams of returning home for people who probably never will, and that this exacerbates tensions. It has nothing to do with alleged antisemitism in UNRWA, yet this letter presents his remarks as if he is agreeing with UN Watch’s claims.
The letter refers to UN Watch’s report, which I also read:
https://unwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/UN-Watch-UNRWA-Terrorgram-.pdf
This report does indeed show there are some nasty views expressed by UNRWA staff on Telegram. There is unarguably antisemitism. But I don’t see that the report disproves the UNRWA’s claim that this is just “a few bad apples”.
Firstly, in the report they admit that
But then they go on:
They admit this is an unwarranted presumption, yet they go ahead and make it.
So there are 3,000 people in the group, and a lot of it is about employment issues:
Here they seem to admit that the group is largely used to discuss UNRWA employment matters as in its stated purpose. Again, they don’t establish how much of the content is antisemitic. For all we know it could be a small fraction.
The fact that he’s an admin doesn’t necessarily imply that his views are the views of everyone in the group. As they say, the stated purpose of the group is to discuss employment contracts and working conditions for UNRWA employees. Out of 3,000 members they cite 30 as making antisemitic statements or statements in support of Hamas attacks, so that’s 1% of the group’s membership. We don’t know why the admins don’t moderate such content. Maybe they’re sympathetic or maybe they’re just poor moderators.
UNRWA has 30,000 employees, so the report establishes that at least 0.1% of their employees are antisemitic or endorse Hamas attacks.
This comes across as clutching at straws. UNRWA claims 95% of its employees have completed a social media neutrality course, and the response is that some of them cheat in exams? That seems weak. If you had conclusive proof that UNRWA was supporting antisemitic terrorism you wouldn’t have to complain that their employees cheat in tests.
It also hasn’t been established that the antisemitic remarks shown in the report from 0.1% of employees are from within the 95% who completed the course and not the 5% who didn’t.
I’m not arguing that there isn’t an antisemitism problem within UNRWA, just that we can’t tell how much of a problem it is from this report. The report only proves that 0.1% of UNRWA employees have made antisemitic and/or pro-Hamas comments online, yet on this basis UN Watch are arguing that UNRWA should be shut down. If we were to shut down every organization where 0.1% of its employees had made offensive remarks online, there wouldn’t be any organizations left.
The report feels like it’s trying to make more of the evidence than it warrants. Maybe there really is a bigger problem, but it needs a more thorough report than this to expose it.
This is some really high quality reading and critical thinking. I appreciate your write up as well as your identification of and attention to nuance.
These do seem to be pretty reasonable arguments.
So, those are reasonable arguments for bombing a Belgian building?
BTW I read that comment in Trumps voice. “a terrible terrible organization! That uses kids to …” I mean what the fuck? Unrwa and Belgium are in league with IRAN?
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