• doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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      10 months ago

      Seems your comment is pretty negatively reviewed but I’d love to hear the arguments against it. I’m gonna withhold my vote until maybe doing some light investigation later when I’m not busy.

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          10 months ago

          The truth is the truth, a political dissident died under suspicious circumstances and said dissent had some (pretty) unsavory political views. Doesn’t mean Putin is a good guy.

          What I find inappropriate is that western media willingly completely ignore Navalnys actual politics in a ploy to get one over on Putin. How about just reporting the facts for once instead of being a blind propaganda machine.

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              10 months ago

              Western propaganda (mostly) doesn’t work via straight up lying or omitting the truth, it works by choosing what is amplified. And for the past 10 years the story around Navalny was that he was the liberal opposition leader, and once in power Russia would be a good™️country. I think given what we know of his actual activism and statements it would have been a lateral move at best.

              That doesn’t mean political murder is a good thing, it just means (to my best estimation) it’s a power struggle between to highly questionable politicians and one of them won.

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                  10 months ago

                  Chinees and Russian propaganda needs to resort to direct censoring more often because they are not culturally powerful enough to control the narrative so there are subtle differences.

                  But my point wasn’t about Russian or Chinese propaganda, it was about the fact that our image of Navalny is a construct of a western propaganda effort to create division in Russia.

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        10 months ago

        If someone is kind of murdered and you write nothing about that and think that it’s instead important to mention that his political views were terrible… Well…

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      10 months ago

      I don’t like a lot of people, but that’s not what democracy is about.

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        10 months ago

        “Certified nationalist” comes from Al Jazeera. He was a straight up Nazi, and Russia has claimed its goal is denazification after the Nazis killed 40 million of their people in living memory and there are somehow still people there who think Nazi ideas are good, they have no excuse. Who knows the circumstances of how he died, but lets not forget the CIA tried to kill Julian Assange, that’s a confirmed fact about the US empire. The US empire will murder not to protect their people from Nazi thugs but to preserve their tyranny while Russia protects people like Snowden.

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          Russia justified the invasion of Ukraine with “denazification”. So, I don’t care what Russia thinks about it. It’s probably 60% bullshit and 40% propaganda.

          And what is that whataboutism about the US and Assange? I’m not even from the USA, in case you thought that…

          And even more whataboutism about Snowden?

          Must be hard for you to just write something about the death of Nawalny without focussing 90% of the text on the Vietnam war, 9/11 and the moon landing…

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            10 months ago

            It’s hardly a whataboutism if I’m simply pointing out the selective outrage that give people a skewed and one-sided view of reality. I wouldn’t have to bring up Assange if people gave him half as much attention, something that could actually help lead to his freedom and do something instead of demonizing happenings you have no control over aside from starting WW3.

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      10 months ago

      but he doesn’t like Putin so he must be a great flawless person who can never be critisiced