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W_oOo_ke_3333@lemmy.today to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Thank you American software

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Thank you American software

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W_oOo_ke_3333@lemmy.today to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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    US companies != US federal government

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      US federal gov already got their hand in companies ass.

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        reverse order

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      At first I thought you were being serious, but I think this is a joke? That Americans don’t care how many companies spy on them as long as it’s not the government?

      Which, is laughable because of course the government has contacts at everyone one of these companies and they’d gladly hand over your data then go to court to protect it

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        No, you’re misunderstanding. The Chinese government has significantly more influence and power over Chinese companies than the US federal government has over US companies. People are acting like both are the same, but they are not.

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          It should be a known fact at this point that US companies share all the data the goverment wants, i don’t think the greater influence matters in this case.

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          This is sort of true, though it’s hard to make a clear distinction between US capitalists and the US government when the capitalists control the government, and have since the 1776 bourgeois revolution.

          China is a proletarian state, where the capitalist class is not in control: China’s housing minister says real estate developers must go bankrupt if necessary

          Whereas the US is a bourgeois state, where the capitalist class is in control.

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            Yeah okay. Your far-left talking points aren’t convincing me and are definitely making your point harder to parse.

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              yeah what was that? I guess thats lemmy.ml for ya

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                The original devs of Lemmy use Lenin and Che Guevara as their avatar pics. No one should be surprised that their primary instance is full of tankies.

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      Ever heard about CLOUD act?

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      Chinese companies != Chin…wait.

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      All of the US corporate social media platforms are part of the US military-industrial-intellegence complex. Look at their boards of directors and executives. Look at the Twitter Files. Look Hamilton 68.

      Look at Reddit:

      • Facebook Partners With Hawkish Atlantic Council, a NATO Lobby Group, to “Protect Democracy”
      • Jessica Ashooh: The taming of Reddit and the National Security State Plant tabbed to do it
      • A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
      • r/neoliberal was created by a neoliberal think tank » BPR Interviews: The Neoliberal Project

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      They have their eye on the fediverse now as well: Atlantic Council » Collective Security in a Federated World

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        You’re also misunderstanding. I won’t deny that US companies seek profit wherever they can, even from unethical sources. I also don’t doubt their involvement with law enforcement and intelligence agencies. But a company seeking profit through a partnership with the United States federal government is not the same as the totalitarian Chinese government requiring oversight of Chinese companies.

        It might not seem like a big difference to you, but it’s an important one to me.

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          If you find it upsetting that the Chinese state imposes its will on the Chinese capitalist class, then you must really like capitalism, where the capitalist class imposes its will on the state.

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      deleted by creator

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