• KlavKalashj@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      How are we even supposed to know what’s right anymore? Am I supposed to vote for the solar or the nuclear fanatics? I just wanna save the fucking climate, what should I do?

      Edit: I’m sorry if this isn’t phrased clearly, but what I mean to say is “solar fanatics or nuclear fanatics”, implying that I feel right in the middle between the to and just want to make the right choice. People are arguing loudly from both sides.

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        10 months ago

        Nuclear, preferably fusion works out and energy becomes a non-issue. But nothing else we have can beat the reliability, energy density and power-to-emissions ratio of nuclear.

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          I’m very sick of hearing about nuclear from Reddit/lemmy. If it was a realistic, affordable solution we’d be doing it. But it’s not. It just seems like it is to the layman.

          There’s a reason the market and governments went all in on renewables and it isn’t just paranoia about nuclear accidents. Building a nuclear plant takes ten years minimum and it’s incredibly expensive, and has a lower margin for profit. In that amount of time governments/companies can build tens of thousands of renewable energy stations.

          The issue of waste from solar is real, but the fact is even with that waste it’s done far more to reduce emissions than nuclear ever has or ever could.

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              It’s hilarious how utterly delusional you are lol. Yeah you go ahead and keep telling yourself that an oil industry conspiracy is pushing renewables over nuclear and not the fundamental economics of the situation. Nuclear isn’t and never will be a realistic solution to climate change.

              Also— your own article states that the fastest nuclear reactors were built in Japan. Well guess what, that’s bizarr because Japan skirted all kinds of safety practices to build their reactors and that’s how you get garbage plants like Fukushima. All of the new reactors getting built now are planned for ten years or more, which your article also confirms.

              And no, you are blatantly wrong that only paranoia is getting in the way of nuclear. Countries aren’t building nuclear because it makes no fucking sense when you can generate the same amount of power for far cheaper with renewables. Renewables are also serving as the baseline power source all around the world and they do the job just fine. Nuclear isn’t needed.

              It’s obvious you’re just another rude, know-it-all douchebag who is actually far more ignorant on this topic than you realize. Straight to my blocked list.

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            It just seems like it is to the layman.

            Ought from an is. Basic fallacy.

            Building a nuclear plant takes ten years minimum and it’s incredibly expensive, and has a lower margin for profit. In that amount of time governments/companies can build tens of thousands of renewable energy stations.

            No. France built many in half that length of time. It does have a low profit margin because it is the only energy source that fully captures it’s external costs. Your solar power is only possible because the cells are “recycled” in places where they don’t give a fuck.

            The issue of waste from solar is real, but the fact is even with that waste it’s done far more to reduce emissions than nuclear ever has or ever could.

            I want a citation of that. And given that nuclear power is seven decades old very much good luck with that.

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          Well, the ‘nuclear fanatics’ are probably the best bet for actually saving the climate.

          Are you volunteering your basement as storage location for nuclear waste? It’s funny how the biggest nuclear proponents are usually the ones who scream the loudest when their region is target for a geological survey for a possible storage location.

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                The politicians who are owned by fossil fuel companies?

                One person writing to their politician isn’t worth the trash can space the letter will end up in. We need to have a majority of people supporting smart energy decisions, and that starts with telling people that their opinions on nuclear energy are 50 years out of date.

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                10 months ago

                I have. I also offered to have a weed store move “nextdoor to me” since they kept on bringing it up during the debates years ago. Even sent them my address and the address of the empty building next door so they would know exactly where to put a legal dispensary.

                It didn’t happen but that might be for the best. Maybe I should have to walk a few minutes to get cannabis instead of walking nextdoor.

                Now that I have fulfilled your requirements I am sure you will be retracting your statement…any time now.

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            Yes I am volunteering my basement for that. Being literal. If you really think my basement is the best place you are welcome to pay me off to use it. I await you to put your money where your mouth is.

            s funny how the biggest nuclear proponents are usually the ones who scream the loudest when their region is target for a geological survey for a possible storage location.

            Citation needed. I want the names of ten people who match your criteria and decibel levels.

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        Nuclear. Go ahead and call me a fantic or whatever you want, I am sure I have been called worse. Renewables in anything resembling a near timeline aren’t up fro the task and we should have started decades ago.

        It is one of the depressing things about tech. We often know the exact solution and convince ourselves that it won’t work.