Mehdi’s Memo on the results of our new poll on Gaza and Iran

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    you forget that almost half of Congress and US citizens still support Israel’s actions.

    You mean republicans?

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      8 months ago

      Mostly, yes. A Democratic President is just as responsible for representing them as they are Democrats. I wish it weren’t true, but that’s the job.

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        8 months ago

        But he’s not representing the people that voted for him…

        He’s doing what the people who will never vote for him and we’re constantly told are dangerous idiots want to happen.

        Why?

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            8 months ago

            when he’s just spinelessly following all of his predecessors

            Even Ronald Reagan cut off aid to Israel due to their actions against Palestinians which was way less than this.

            Obama also drew lines, and Israel didn’t cross them. Even though Biden argued with Obama over it

            Part of that was probably Obama didn’t spend half a century loudly proclaiming that he’ll always support them.

            Bill Clinton held Israel to a higher standard as well

            This ain’t a binary thing, very few things are.

            Biden unwavering support of Israel isn’t normal for either party

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              8 months ago

              Reagan sold munitions to Iran, who gave them to Hezbollah. Then after removing aid from Israel, he gave them military aid to attack Hezbollah in Lebanon. That fucker is the father of the Israel-Iran proxy war. I give him no credit for removing aid only to manipulate where Israel pointed the guns.

              Biden, as you’ll see in the article I just linked, has declared Israel’s use of US arms to be against agreement, and will no longer supply offensive munitions. He took a while, but it seems he’s doing the right thing now.

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                8 months ago

                I never said Reagan was perfect…

                You said no president drew a line with Israel when Biden is the only one that won’t.

                And why do you keep replying to me in multiple threads?

                You do this a lot lately in fact. If I reply once and take more than two minutes, you go to the last comment I made on my post history and reply to that.

                It’s getting weird