• Thann@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Its not like therapy is only good for the ales of capitalism, And it’s not like people don’t need therapy from communism.

    I remember when foxconn was having a string of suicides from their roof, and their solution was to put up a net. That is what I would describe as “papering over the problem”

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      8 months ago

      And I explicitly said that there’s nothing wrong with therapy of itself. Meanwhile, Foxconn is a Taiwanese capitalist company last I checked. Not sure what that has to do with communism in your mind.

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        8 months ago

        Well maybe the tibetans or the uyghurs could probably use some therapy then

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            8 months ago

            You’re unironically saying that only people in capitalist countries need therapy and people under communism simply don’t get depressed?

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              Nope, that’s just a straw man you’re making because you don’t have any actual counterpoint. What I’m actually saying is that mental health problems caused by capitalism should be treated by dealing with capitalist exploitation that causes these problems instead of papering over them using drugs. Evidently this is too complex a concept for you to comprehend, so only thing you can do is bleat about communism while providing further examples of capitalist exploitation like Foxconn.

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                8 months ago

                Obviously capitalism has problems, and obviously fixing them would help. But its not like depression would end. And its not like people in China arnt depressed and if psychedelic therapy was used there to help people, I don’t think you would be shittalking it. The foxconn factory I’m talking about is in shenzen, so why don’t you advocate for psychedelic therapy there? Clearly the horrors of capitalism are also ravishing China, so do they not benefit from psychedelics?

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                  Nobody is arguing that depression would end. Again, this is just the straw man you keep trotting out here. Try engaging with what’s actually being said for a change.

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                    8 months ago

                    Im legitimately trying to understand why you think psychedelic therapy is bad…

                    you say its papering over the root cause of mental illness, while simultaneously acknowledging that removing the so called “root cause” would still leave a need for it. so why then is it not a good thing? why is the title of your post not: “psycadelic therapy helps americans, its time to bring it to china!”

                    It seems obvious your prerogative is to shittalk everything done in the US while papering over the same exact issues in china.

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            7 months ago

            Yogthos was insinuating that people in the perfect country of china don’t need therapy, (and continued to do so in the reply) so I pointed out several cultures that are being genocided in china, suggesting that they could use therapy.

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              There are zero “cultures that are being genocided” in China. Tibetans were under serfdom and brutal theocracy before liberation by the PLA, and since have seen a rise in living standards in addition to preservation of culture. For Uyghurs, China responded to US-backed terror with educational facilities and yet Uyghur culture is propped up and praised by the CPC in media in addition to representation in communities.

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                Lol the Chinese government kidnapped and imprisoned-for-life a six-year-old kid because he was the next tibeten spiritual leader!

                And it was to free them from serfdom? Surprise! China is a serfdom! That is the dumbest excuse in the world! It was because the head waters of their rivers are there… Saying it was a liberation is just propaganda.

                And the Uyghur reeducation centers are just like the jewish reeducation centers the nazis setup in Poland.

                You will overlook genocide to turn your nose up at therapy.

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                  Holy nonsense. The same Dalai Lama (THE Tibetan spiritual leader) has been alive since the liberation of Tibet, you don’t even know what you’re conveying. Also how can you say the child was imprisoned for life when we don’t know his whereabouts? His naming as the Panchen Lama was outside of customs and China may have taken him out of the situation so he couldn’t be exploited.

                  And that comparison is Holocaust denialist slop.

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                    Yeah, they “saved him and he’s living on a farm and doesnt want to be contacted”

                    Or he’s dead, who knows, that’s the thing with dictatorships.

                    I’m not denying the holocaust, your denying another genocide!