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cyu@sh.itjust.works to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Toyota claims battery with range of 745 miles, charges in 10 minutes

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Toyota claims battery with range of 745 miles, charges in 10 minutes

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Toyota claims battery breakthrough in potential boost for electric cars
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Japanese firm believes it could make a solid-state battery with a range of 745 miles that charges in 10 minutes
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    Repost of a my previous comment on this elsewhere:

    They have been “claiming”/ “announcing” this breakthrough since 2017 repeatedly. They STILL haven’t figured out how to mass produce it affordably to make it meaningful. They keep pushing out the date for when it will arrive for many years now.

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      OP’s article first claims 2025 and then claims 2027.

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        As per the image in my post Toyota first announced this in 2017 with a target of 2022… They just keep re-announcing it saying it is coming in about 3-5 years.

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          Worth pointing out there was a global pandemic in the middle of that timeline

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      It’ll come out when Tesla releases Full Self Driving for real

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        I don’t think Tesla is going to be the one announcing that.

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      Add on top of the nature of these ultra capitalist worldwide corporations, even if they were able to mass produce this affordably that would mean decommisioning tens of millions in already existing production infrastructure. Why would they do that when they can delay next gen tech for greater profit?

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        mm totally! seems like a very “i’ll just wait for the next gen to buy an EV” kind of thing

        … like, even if it’s possible it’s not possible… just the amount of energy required to be transferred into that battery wouldn’t charge in any existing charging infrastructure

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          Ya that is the other major point. Toyota doesn’t have a charging network, and they didn’t build out a hydrogen network for their hydrogen car.

          So even if they have this battery it would not be able to do what they claimed in practical use.

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            Their hydrogen cars work fine… as long as you live in a tiny area in california and have no desire to leave it lol

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              And are willing to pay “more” for expensive hydrogen.

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                Huh, the dude I know with a hydrogen car was bragging about the price of hydrogen compared to gas.

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                  https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/why-is-hydrogen-fuel-so-expensive/8558411/

                  The Toyota Mirai comes with $15,000 worth of free fuel https://www.toyota.com/mirai/

                  Maybe that is what they where bragging about? Ask them in 3 years when the free fuel runs out.

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                    They got it used

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      Just in time for the commercially viable cold fusion.

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      Was going to reference your post.

      Toyota spoofing.

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      Except none of those are about battery tech, just vehicles. Solid state batteries are a real thing that have shown promising advances as of late.

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        The title of the one in the top right is “Toyota EVs With Long-Range Solid-State Batteries Due 2022”

        Here is a whole article on them making these past claims with sources https://thedriven.io/2023/07/05/solid-state-batteries-toyota-has-history-of-talking-big-on-ev-breakthrough-but-not-delivering/

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      Excellent sleuthing

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