Here’s the thing, I get it. The condom breaks, birth control fails, shit happens. But it’s still murder. If someone gets drunk, and accidentally kills someone, they don’t get let off the hook. If they build something, and they fuck up, and someone dies, that’s homicidal negligence, and they aren’t let off the hook. In almost every abortion case, it’s due to making mistakes at a young age (kids are very dumb), women getting raped, families can’t financially take care of a new child, birth control fails, just like you said. And that’s no excuse for homicide. Only real thing is self-defense, and I guess you can argue that if the mother’s life is truly in danger.
Everything is what we decide it is. You have decided killing a fetus is homicide, that’s your interpretation. It isn’t like that for other people. Other people have adopted other definitions of what life is. When does a human life start? It starts when we say so. It is a continuous transition, not a discrete set of steps.
For you a human life starts at a point, for them it starts at a different point. Who is right? Neither. That’s just a matter of opinion and semantics. Which is why I gave the example of the people who think jerking off is a sin because “you shall not waste your seed” or whatever.
You are trying to protect the life of a future human, they are trying to protect the freedom of women. You have different priorities.
My whole point is… You just shouted an opinion and got shouted opinions back at you. What’s the point? Just vote for whoever you think will make the change you want to see. It is your right. It is also their right.
Here’s the thing, I get it. The condom breaks, birth control fails, shit happens. But it’s still murder. If someone gets drunk, and accidentally kills someone, they don’t get let off the hook. If they build something, and they fuck up, and someone dies, that’s homicidal negligence, and they aren’t let off the hook. In almost every abortion case, it’s due to making mistakes at a young age (kids are very dumb), women getting raped, families can’t financially take care of a new child, birth control fails, just like you said. And that’s no excuse for homicide. Only real thing is self-defense, and I guess you can argue that if the mother’s life is truly in danger.
Everything is what we decide it is. You have decided killing a fetus is homicide, that’s your interpretation. It isn’t like that for other people. Other people have adopted other definitions of what life is. When does a human life start? It starts when we say so. It is a continuous transition, not a discrete set of steps.
For you a human life starts at a point, for them it starts at a different point. Who is right? Neither. That’s just a matter of opinion and semantics. Which is why I gave the example of the people who think jerking off is a sin because “you shall not waste your seed” or whatever.
You are trying to protect the life of a future human, they are trying to protect the freedom of women. You have different priorities.
My whole point is… You just shouted an opinion and got shouted opinions back at you. What’s the point? Just vote for whoever you think will make the change you want to see. It is your right. It is also their right.
so the alternative is ? forcing the mother to give birth? so murder or slavery?
i know which one i prefer between murdering a few cells and enslaving a fully functional human being.
if you ahve another solution i am all ears