• bdiddy@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    shipping is also trucks dude… and all the other nasty ways we move products around the world…

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      1 year ago

      Sure it is, but I think that’s still better than if every individual needs to drive their own car through half the country to buy coffee. Shipping needs to happen in any way. Sure we could order less stuff from the internet, so individual house door shipping would be less, but that’s a drop in the ocean, compared to the other named factors

      • Cohort Czort@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Lol, trash reasoning. “Extremists” that want to start building communities that dont require you to drive everywhere. Just because evs are slightly better then gas doesnt mean its good to keep making cars a centralizing point we build our society around.

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            1 year ago

            It ain’t that hard,

            High density places:

            lower parking availability, increase public transport availability and frequency.

            Low density places:

            They need their cars, they can keep them.

            Remove zoning restrictions, and parking requirements

            so there is more mixture of commercial and residential places shortening transport distance, allowing for even avoiding public transport and just walking/biking replacing this.

            More biking infraestructure.

            Fair taxes to car owners,

            that means, othe people not having to support the huge car projects that cost more than they can get from the taxes they do on cars.

            Also regulations on environmental design of cars, basically gaining back the progress we had done on car efficiency that was taken back by everyone wanting an SUV instead of a turismo.

            :)

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                1 year ago

                Really not a choice, carbon emissiosn have to stop. EVs dont do that. Urban trees are not going to revese climate change. Wow, you’re saying people need to keep lowering denisity.

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                Realistically, EVs are useful as a stopgap solution. They could be used to cover the transition as we expand public transit like EV busses, trains, subways, etc.