considering that all three of these regimes are not committing genocide at the moment, Iran not even interested in said genocide and the other two only existing because they are a resistance movement against Israel. yes, I think you can make a very compelling case that said one genocidal terrorist regime is worse than the others.
Hezbollah was relatively quiet before the war kicked off, Hamas was supported by the Israeli state under Netanyahu to act as a spoiler towards the PAs attempt at a diplomatic 2-state solution, and Israel has been in power for the past 70 years. Hamas and Hezbollah literally only exist because Israel is an expansionist apartheid state.
If Iran isn’t interested in the genocide, why do they fund and arm Hamas and Hezbollah? And Israel supported Hamas as an opposition to the PLO, which was a major terrorist organization at the time. Do you think they intentionally created Hamas as an excuse to get their own people bombed?
Israel supported Hamas as an opposition to the PLO
the PLO didn’t fucking exist anymore when Hamas being supported by the Israeli government, Hamas started out as a humanitarian aid group affiliated with the Muslim brotherhood and radicalized before the second intifada, they were supported to undermine the PA who had been created as part of the Oslo Accords (that Israel then ignored), the most prominent example f this being when the IDF conducted air strikes against Fatah (the actual PA government) during the Hamas - Fatah civil war.
Yes the Israeli government helped create Hamas to undermine any attempt at negotiation towards a two-state solution, and a few dead Jews are no biggie, in fact they died as martyrs to justify genocide, you know eggs and omelets, this isn’t out of the ordinary behavior for genocidal regimes.
First off, you haven’t answered my question about why Iran is funding Hamas and Hezbollah if they don’t want genocide. Second, the PLO still exists. Supporting Hamas was a massive failure, but they didn’t do it to kill their own people.
First off, you haven’t answered my question about why Iran is funding Hamas and Hezbollah if they don’t want genocide.
the same reason why the US funded Alquaeda.
secondly, that “PLO” is inconsequential and doesn’t have any actual connection to the original PLO.
and lastly, you assume that extremists like the current Israeli government care about people’s lives, and i very clearly stated that Israel supported Hamas to delegitimize the PA and avoid a two-state solution, and you don’t have to take my word for it, the fucking Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said this.
I can’t find a credible source confirming that. And even if they did, that wouldn’t make Iran’s funding of Hamas and Hezbollah any less genocidal. Fair point on the origins of Hamas, though.
You can’t find a credible source confirming the existence of operation cyclone? I’m sorry, but I think you REALLY need to learn a bit more about the Middle East before you start making statements like you have been here. if it’s news to you that America is the main reason why Al Quaeda, the Taliban and to an extent modern Iran exist as they do.
I’m sorry, but Operation Cyclone is a fact, it doesn’t matter if Al-Qaeda say one thing or another, the US funded them, along with countless other Mujahideen in the late 70s to the early 90s.
And now you’re also trying to bring morals into this like it has any relevance at all, Iran doesn’t care about morals when they support groups like Hamas, Israel doesn’t care when they slaughter tens of thousands of civilians in their open air camps and let another few thousand starve to death due to their blockade, America didn’t care who died and who took power after the expulsion of the soviets from the region, etc…
Iran is supporting the enemies of Israel, not because they want to genocide every Jew or some shit like that, no they are doing it to weaken their local geopolitical rival. Israel supported Hamas for much the same reason, ironically, to weaken the PA, they didn’t do it to cause some Israelis to die, but that was just something they were willing to spend, Because surprise, a government only cares about its citizens as so much as it harms their chances of staying in office, especially an extremist one like Israel.
This is modern international politics. This is the story of western involvement in the Middle East, and the nation state of Israel is the very definition of western involvement. all because the Brits, the French, and the Americans were just a wee tad bit less xenophobic than the Germans, but still didn’t want Jews in their countries (but that’s an entirely different can of worms)
considering that all three of these regimes are not committing genocide at the moment, Iran not even interested in said genocide and the other two only existing because they are a resistance movement against Israel. yes, I think you can make a very compelling case that said one genocidal terrorist regime is worse than the others.
Hezbollah was relatively quiet before the war kicked off, Hamas was supported by the Israeli state under Netanyahu to act as a spoiler towards the PAs attempt at a diplomatic 2-state solution, and Israel has been in power for the past 70 years. Hamas and Hezbollah literally only exist because Israel is an expansionist apartheid state.
If Iran isn’t interested in the genocide, why do they fund and arm Hamas and Hezbollah? And Israel supported Hamas as an opposition to the PLO, which was a major terrorist organization at the time. Do you think they intentionally created Hamas as an excuse to get their own people bombed?
Yes the Israeli government helped create Hamas to undermine any attempt at negotiation towards a two-state solution, and a few dead Jews are no biggie, in fact they died as martyrs to justify genocide, you know eggs and omelets, this isn’t out of the ordinary behavior for genocidal regimes.
First off, you haven’t answered my question about why Iran is funding Hamas and Hezbollah if they don’t want genocide. Second, the PLO still exists. Supporting Hamas was a massive failure, but they didn’t do it to kill their own people.
the same reason why the US funded Alquaeda.
secondly, that “PLO” is inconsequential and doesn’t have any actual connection to the original PLO.
and lastly, you assume that extremists like the current Israeli government care about people’s lives, and i very clearly stated that Israel supported Hamas to delegitimize the PA and avoid a two-state solution, and you don’t have to take my word for it, the fucking Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said this.
I can’t find a credible source confirming that. And even if they did, that wouldn’t make Iran’s funding of Hamas and Hezbollah any less genocidal. Fair point on the origins of Hamas, though.
You can’t find a credible source confirming the existence of operation cyclone? I’m sorry, but I think you REALLY need to learn a bit more about the Middle East before you start making statements like you have been here. if it’s news to you that America is the main reason why Al Quaeda, the Taliban and to an extent modern Iran exist as they do.
Al-Qaeda themselves deny that they received funding from the US. Now, why is Iran funding genocidal terrorist groups acceptable? Can you answer that without saying “well the US is doing it too,” or is this whole conflict tit-for-tat?
I’m sorry, but Operation Cyclone is a fact, it doesn’t matter if Al-Qaeda say one thing or another, the US funded them, along with countless other Mujahideen in the late 70s to the early 90s.
And now you’re also trying to bring morals into this like it has any relevance at all, Iran doesn’t care about morals when they support groups like Hamas, Israel doesn’t care when they slaughter tens of thousands of civilians in their open air camps and let another few thousand starve to death due to their blockade, America didn’t care who died and who took power after the expulsion of the soviets from the region, etc…
Iran is supporting the enemies of Israel, not because they want to genocide every Jew or some shit like that, no they are doing it to weaken their local geopolitical rival. Israel supported Hamas for much the same reason, ironically, to weaken the PA, they didn’t do it to cause some Israelis to die, but that was just something they were willing to spend, Because surprise, a government only cares about its citizens as so much as it harms their chances of staying in office, especially an extremist one like Israel.
This is modern international politics. This is the story of western involvement in the Middle East, and the nation state of Israel is the very definition of western involvement. all because the Brits, the French, and the Americans were just a wee tad bit less xenophobic than the Germans, but still didn’t want Jews in their countries (but that’s an entirely different can of worms)