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Summary
An unsealed Brazilian Federal Police report alleges that former President Jair Bolsonaro actively planned and participated in a 2022 coup plot to remain in power after losing to Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.
The report details Bolsonaro’s presentation of a draft decree to military commanders to suspend electoral court powers and investigate alleged voting fraud, though opposition from army and air force leaders stopped the plan.
Bolsonaro denies involvement, but faces accusations of staging a coup, eliminating the rule of law, and forming a criminal organization, with potential prison sentences of 11+ years if convicted.
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This is what happens when you’re in a country with laws. In 3rd country banana democracy, you don’t go to jail for a coup, you run for president and win!
Brazil has been under a military dictatorship and they remember (until 50 years ago), same for many EU countries. The USian in contrast has no concept of what is at stake until it will be too late.
I generally just picture the masses of WWII vets alive looking at Americans through the eras, disappearing little by little, and as soon as the last one disappears America just collectively goes, “Why were we against fascism again? Can’t remember. Ohwell, can’t imagine it was that important.”
Conservatism didn’t spend the last 50 years crippling education for fun. It was because a stupid worker is easier to con.
American exceptionalism is really a disease. They think they’re somehow different.
Pointing this out actually gives me a little hope, albeit not a whole lot. We’re absolutely heading that way, but knowing others have gotten out still means a lot. Cheers to a ton of pain and suffering soon, guys.
2nd world oligarchy more like. Trump’s organized crime to politics pipeline is straight out of Russia and the corrupt parts of Ukrainian history. I think “The Road to Unfreedom” by Timothy Snyder comments on all the connections and common themes between oligarchy in Ukraine and Russia and in the US, but I’m still reading through it.
Lol Brasil is taunting us at this point
🙃
Like history is gonna be so funny.
Like imagine reading history and turn to the 2020s and read that:
The world’s most powerful country in terms of military strength and diplomatic influence had the option of a prosecutor or a convicted felon with a history of being a shitty person and adjundicated of rape, 2 legit impeachments, and already 1 term of being a shit president…
And the voters still chose the felon.
Then some random “third-world” country has a better democracy and actually prosecute coup plotters and traitors.
🤦♂️
I mean if you include that the voters had to choose between the felon, and the party that didn’t punish the felon in any meaningful way, readers would understand why voters didn’t feel their vote mattered.
.ml at it again y’all
Shame on them for describing reality.
Are you referring to you in the third person right now after claiming nothing was done right after this turd was impeached twice but the tied senate couldn’t make a meaningful move, or are you openly stating that you’re fucking retarded?
Nothing was done, Trump was not affected in any meaningful way, hence why he is president elect instead of rotting in a prison cell or assassinated.
Merrick Garland, the AG appointed by the dems, chose not to move ahead with the charges in such a way to get trump locked up. They could have replaced him at any time.
But I’m sure the democrats wanted to, they just didn’t have the power. Weird how the republicans always find a way to do what their base wants, but democrats are always blocked by norms or <insert senator> blocking the party or senate rules or the parliamentarian, or whatever bullshit.
The guy who tried to shoot Trump did more to stop Trump than Garland did.
I shouldn’t have been that much of an asshole, and for that I’m sorry.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-votes-to-acquit-trump-for-role-in-capitol-attack
|The verdict, on a vote of 57-43,
Meaningful change wasn’t possible. Well maybe it was possible, but politically not possible.
The question of the DoJ, an executive organization prosecuting and convicting s president was always in the favor of presidents. It just wasn’t a reliable way to go. It had hope, but it turns out that’s not enough.
I’ve said this a few times, and I’ll say it again, this is going to take violence from the people before any meaningful change happens.
Trying to say “both sides same” is not helping anyone at all.
I’m not saying both sides are the same, I’m saying democrats chose not to do what was necessary to neutralize trump or even get reelected, instead grandstanding with impeachments they knew wouldn’t have any effect.
Meaningful change wasn’t possible. Well maybe it was possible, but politically not possible.
We’re about to see what is and isn’t “politically not possible”. Spoiler: The American executive is one of the most powerful executives of any country outside of the gulf monarchies and maybe Russia and France in what it can do unilaterally.
tfw Brazil has a stronger democracy than the U.S.
Ah, the irony.
