• EmoDuck@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    22 days ago

    It’s never as simple as “They went public, everything is shit now”. Kiara talked about that at length in todays stream. Those things don’t just happen over night because a company goes public, it happens over years and affects each talent differently.

    I know it feels like people are graduating left and right but the golden age of vtubing is simply coming to an end. People retire not because ‘every is shit now’, they retire simply because they have been doing this for years and wanna move on to different stuff.

    And for corporate Vtubers, that often just means graduating

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      22 days ago

      Every video game company and every anime company would disagree. Kiara is still in the company, so her opinion of the company is going to have a bias, even considering she’s been the most outspoken member of Myth. Many of the members who have left have flat out said that they’re leaving because of disagreements with management. Not because they don’t like Idol stuff or streaming. Yuuki Sakana flat out released a cover song when everyone thought she was going to focus on gaming.

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        22 days ago

        Every video game company and every anime company would disagree.

        Afaik the large majority of anime companies aren’t publicly traded… the issue in that field is usually within production committees (which can, and often do, include public companies).

        Apparently that applies to a lot of gaming companies I like too… but that made me realize pretty much all of the publicly traded companies I know are shit and now I’m more afraid than before.

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          21 days ago

          I’m actually referring to the monstrosity that is Sony-Funimation-Crunchyroll-Rightstuf.

          The actual production companies are hit or miss on toxic work culture. I’m limited in my exposure, but Kyoto Animation seems to be a good one and A-1 Pictures is shit(oh, it’s a subsidiary of Sony). Generally, the smaller the better. Smaller gap between the executives and the animators and smaller teams means they have to keep the workers happy because if a few leave, the whole production grounds to a halt. I’m afraid I’m seeing the slow decline of Gainax all over again.

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            21 days ago

            Generally, the smaller the better. Smaller gap between the executives and the animators and smaller teams means they have to keep the workers happy because if a few leave, the whole production grounds to a halt.

            Ehh… nowadays most studios outsource a LOT, so losing talent isn’t really that threatening. Afaik KyoAni and Ghibli are the only studios who barely outsource anything, other ones may have some “regular” director or animator but most of them are just freelancers.

            Their bank account is much more important than talent retention, sadly (and most studios do pretty badly under that aspect as well, as most of the money goes to committees).

            Anime industry is just a mess in general, it’s a miracle they even manage to release great products from time to time.

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      22 days ago

      don’t just happen over night because a company goes public

      I mean, it didn’t. They went public 1,5 years ago didn’t they? Not saying that’s the cause, but disagreement with management seems to rhyme pretty well with that