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The Fediverse is the Fediverse by not being Meta. You are arguing for destroying the Fediverse for everyone by waving Meta in.

Why do you keep putting my and others’ @ in your messages? If that’s a your instance thing it’s weird.

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that’s not how the perception of the masses works, though.

How can allowing access to everything on something people start out viewing as the defualt make it seem like less of the default?

Only by things existing outside of threads can people realize it it not.

people hate Facebook. Or Meta.

I agree; people rightly hate facebook and meta

I never said that people should use Threads to join the Fediverse. I said that people who already use Threads can be more easily convinced to join this place.

How will you convince them if they can get everything the fediverse offers without leaving Threads?

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I don’t think letting people interact with you without leaving Meta hurts Meta, no.

Building something bad actors aren’t allowed to access and telling people about it without letting Meta play middleman is how you get people off meta,not throwing open the doors to Evil.

This didn’t work, sadly.

How much are those relationships worth then?

And it doesn’t work because such platforms make you think that they are the default

You make Meta seem more like the default by allowing contact with you through it. Be something they can’t access while associating with evil.

I’m happy for you, or sorry that happened.

You are infinitely safer interacting with a Threads user here than by actually using Threads itself.

You should not be interacting with Threads. No one should be, and you should not legitimize it’s use.

You will not convince people to leave threads by letting them stay on threads and still talk to you.

I’m against it sounding like “Threads” i.e. as though it’s something Meta owns and controls. For all I know your use came first and the thing I hate is Meta appropriating it, though.

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Facebook is not (yet?) negatively impacting the fediverse. Fediverse users are.

Meta negatively impacts everything by being Meta. You should not cover for nor defend them.

If that’s true, I hate it.

that’s why you have to get as many people here before the last e phase ;)

You are arguing for drinking gasoline before the spark comes rather than setting out a sign banning flammable liquids.

You cannot out Meta Meta or use their desire to hurt you against them. You can only oppose them with hard walls and hard lines.

I dislike Facebook, so that’s why I am here. But if the only way to stay in touch with people I know irl is on Threads, so be it.

Do you see how they are already using their size to control and negatively impact the fediverse? The very fact you are arguing that.

If you know them IRL, you can tell them IRL to get off of facebook.

If they won’t well, either keep talking to them IRL or reexamine who your friends are.

entering the Threadiverse

That’s not a fucking thing. Threads doesn’t own the Fediverse and they clearly are not welcome on it either.

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Federating with Threads only hurts Meta.
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Defederating helps Meta.

What the fuck are you talking about, That is the opposite of true.

All you have to do is to tolerate that you can’t just call everyone nazi because they once had dinner with someone that might be a “nazi”

If you sat down and broke bread with someone who argued for killing all the Jews and Queers and you didn’t punch them in the mouth for even thinking that what the fuck do you think that would make you?

You are abetting an act of violence to allow people to try to organize a genocide, and any stage of that organization.

If 100 people are in the same room as a nazi they are all Nazis…

I said “having dinner”, but if a nazi shows up at your event and no one throws them out, that’s a nazi event.

All you have to do is not tolerate nazis, my dude.