Has there still been real concensus with the serious science people? Last time i read about this, there were two models that are most likelly going to happen, another was slow and another was fast, but nobody could really say which one is going to happen and both models were seen equally realistic. But everybody agrees that both predictions are bad for everybody.

In any case, way we should act like the faster one is the one we are going to get.

Im the guy who calls morons a moron and maybe if there were more guys like me, then last autum some poor paramedic would not had to scrape some kids remains from the concrete while their partner were trying to calm down two traumatised teenagers.

Before the social media, and smart phones every moronic thing that every moronic adolescent did, had no way to spread instantly to thousands other teenagers screens.

I dont wish anybody to die, but bullshit like this is just high production value tik tok trend.

Normalizing and idolising stunts like this encourages morons to try it them self and they end up with broken neck.

Just last autum three kids climbed in to radio mast, because they were doing some stupid challenge video. One of them ended up taking the express elevator to ground. Yay, sad parents without a kid and two traumatised friends, because of silly content.

I would love to just put it under natural selection, but its clear that they did what they did because of social media and because they had seen similiar content done by somebody else.

So yeah. I see stunts like this as harmfull.

Was it any good game? It has been sitting in my library for ever, but i heard its kind of meh, so i have been putting it of.

Morality systems are easy to break anyway.

I would say its more that morality systems are hard to implement.

If you make simple system where you loose karma from stealing and gain karma from donating money for orphans player can exploit that system easy. You would need to figure some other system. One could be system where after stealing or donating a certain amount you get a status that permanently raises/lowers your karma. But it really cant be permanent either because it takes away from player agency. How would you turn those things to a points. I mean stealing last coin from beggar cant be same that stealing a coin from a millionare. Also this kind of karma system makes so the quests in the game are black and white. You cant make a quest where dooming 12 orphans to die saves thousands from a plague.

How to implement the karma? Everybody magically hating you for low karma is just unrealistic. Should karma effect only some random events and set story points? Sounds fine, but then devs need to implement that system to the storypoints and its not easy to do so without railroading the players. Like Paragon/Renegate in mass effect 2. It made it so everytime the opportunity came to choose from the two, it took away from the real choise and it became just desition to wich stat you want to raise. Also choosing neutral choice was never good option, because in the end game you need to have one or other stat high enough to get trough gated discussions. You could roleplay and choose what ever you feel right, but then some late game options are just locked from you.

I do enjoy discussions like these, but we are getting stuck.

Im talking about the quote you said earlier, and how, while it is a strong quote, its not universal and it cannot be just tossed as is to the other situation. The quote critiques how people enjoying certain benefits are slow to change their opinion and behavior when people they seem less worthy are given chance to get some of those benefits for themself.

And the situation we are talking is how much people are willing to take if there will be a trade war in future. These are two very different situations.

If my friend needs medicine to live and they cant get it because some nation on the other side of the sea wants to subjucate us, it is only going to get me hate that nation harder.

Please answer this question: Would you sacrifice yourself, and everyone you’ve loved, for your principles?

By the way this is called a yes set. Its when you are asking questions where only reasonable answer for the other side is to agree with you or pick a response you have already decited. Ideally this leaves you in the position where you can keep building on that and getting other person agreeing with you turns arguments into discussions, even if it is scripted. Few of these and im gonna buy a car from you.

You want a safe car for your family, right? Is it important to you, that your car is dependable? What matters to you more, the mileage or how it drives?

This sedan was just waiting for you to come in!

Dont you know? We are playing the reverse game. Americans putting people in to concentration camp’s and things like that.

And my point is that you cant expect every culture act similary to 30’s/40’s white american nuclear family

Im sorry for the hardship you are experiencing. I truly wish USA will someday have proper care and safety nets for the people.

But you cant mirror you situation to the whole world.

I recommend you to read about 21st century civil unrests in France. I dont say its necessary the right thing to do, but boy those people dont stay passive or care about status quo if they feel like something isint going to their way. I really cant imagine figure like Trump would stay in power for long in there.

There are a surprising amount of batshit-crazy ultra billionaires. They have the same weaknesses as everyone else. They succumb to their own collective propaganda. They are narcissistic sociopaths.

This is a fair assestment. Alltough i personally feel like they have just so removed from the problems of the normal people, that they dont know what the life is to rest of us. Like i think many people have experiences with a supervisor/boss that has not been done the everyday part of the job in so long, they dont anymore know how to assess it.

Scholars also noted that big business developed an increasingly close partnership with the Italian Fascist and German Nazi governments after they took power.

Operative word being “after”. At that point the figurative boat has allready capsized. We are not there yet.

In the US, we have been pulling our hair out trying to understand why so many us are believing stark lies that lead to ruin. We have about a dozen billionaires in cabinet positions. Our oligarch class wholeheartedly supports Trump. Yeah, some push back when their pot gets disturbed, then they give the admin money or power in exchange for a carve-out and contract.

From my outside perspective your system is just broken. President has too much power and the two party system just makes it so that the moment other party gets elected they start by undoing what the predecessor did. Congress is good thing, but again the two party system shoots it in the leg.

Also i cant comprehend the gerrymandering. Its a thing that made sense in a time when poll results were delivered on horseback.

I hope you guys find a way to fix your shit, but world will go on even if you wont. USA is not as important to the world as your news or schools may say.

He lived in a time when racial segregation was the norm and wrote from the perspective afro american male.

Women had just gotten a right to vote and while they could get a job, huge part of them were housewifes. And the jobs they could apply were still very limited.

The whole socioeconomic situation and upbringing of people cant be compared to modern day EU. I think good example how much culture and history effects to the way people act, is watching how people in Japan react during and after disasters and compare it to how people in states react. Granted its extreme example and USA and EU are not that far apart from eachother, but it shows well how differently different cultures act in different situation. Hence i say, that MLK’s writings cant just be willy nilly aplied to people living on the otherside of the world allmost a century after the writing.

I did not say money was smart. Im saying that if you have billions tied to a boat you dont want to shake it. Fasist regimes are not the same as oligarch. Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini were not rich busines men when they started their politics. Maybe they werent dirt poor either, but most of their wealth came after. If you look soviets at the beginning there were rich people who tried to fight the regime, but in the end they were forced to work with the leaders in power or disapear. What i am trying to say is, when people have lots of money tied to something, they try to keep things steady. Ofcouse there will be fanatics, but most people who handle huge amounts of money are business savy enough to see that tanking the economy now is not worth of the unsure payout in the future, when the way things go now are allready making them rich.

Whitout disrespecting MLK, he wrote about completelly different people, with completelly different values who were living in a different time. You cant really bring writings about highly individualistic culture in a time when racial segration was common and slavery were still so fresh there were both, people who used to own slaves and people who were born in slavery alive, and except it to represent modern day europeans accuratelly. I think Bernie Sanders is good example. In USA he is perceived as a borderline extremist by some, but in most european countries his policies are pretty mild and centrist.

I bet EU countries would fare much better than USA in face of economic hardship. Europeans generally are not as invidualistic as americans and social safety nets are better.

And no, i honestly havent seen those comments. I try to steer clear from social media, and what i have seen here are more desperate calls for action than anything else.

I have really hard time beliving the rich and powerfull would on purpose cross the line and bomb the economy, because they have most to lose. The risk and the reward just does not add up.

Android is open source. Google makes money trough playstore and youtube. Google pays for phone manufactorers so they keep apps like maps and gmail preinstalled on the phones. If at some point there would be situation where company like samsung would need to choose between googles money or their biggest market, market wins. By a huge margin.

USA has hard time stopping Algeria from trading with EU by any other way than military force. EU is their biggest trade partner. 48% of their trade is to European Union.

Also where you get the individuals are weak thing? Like i already said. You are over estimating the importance American trade. And you are forgetting trade goes both ways.

Millions of jobs in the United States are related to EU-US trade and investment. The European Union is a reliable source of critical supplies to the United States, including medicinal ingredients and pharmaceutical products, advanced machinery and equipment, and aerospace parts and components. At the same time, the European Union is the largest buyer of the United States’ natural gas and oil, but states are not the biggest importer of gas and oil for EU.

Total bilateral trade in goods between the EU and the US reached €851 billion in 2023. The EU exported €503 billion of goods to the US market, while importing €347 billion; this resulted in a goods trade surplus of €157 billion for the EU. Total bilateral trade in services between the EU and the US was worth €746 billion in 2023. The EU exported €319 billion of services to the US, while importing €427 billion from the US; this resulted in a services trade deficit of €109 billion for the EU.

The difference between EU exports to the US and US exports to the EU stood at €48 billion in 2023; the equivalent of just 3% of the total trade between the EU and the US.

Also since you like to talk about the oligarchs.

The EU and the US are also major investment partners. EU and US firms have €4.7 trillion worth of investment in each other’s markets (2023 data).

How do you think these oligarchs feel if that 5,5 trillion dollars of investments start to unravel.

What a nice and well-balanced fella.

You are over estimating the importance of american products. Android has 60% market share in eu while iphone has 39%. Norway and Algeria supplied both more LNG to europe than USA in 2024.

At Q3. 2025 EU bought only 14,5% of our petrolium oil from USA. Norway alone was 14,6%.

EU is allready looking into making our own replacement for visa and mastercard.

Food and drink is not really a problem as many processed products USA produces already recognized as non suitable for human consuption. South america will be happy to provide nuts and fruits for EU. Especially when their neighboring country is acting hostile towards them at the moment and most alchohol USA produce is considered bottomself stuff.

Car imports from the USA has been falling for years, even before Trumps tarifs.

I think windows is hardest to shake as most businesses use it and most softwares are designed to use it.

Cultural things like movies, tv series and music and somesoftware are also hard to replace.

And mr. Nobel invented dynamite. Should i shun Nelson Mandela because he won the price named after somebody whose invention has brought death in large scale?

Science wont kill, the application does. Yelling about NASA being military monster institution is directing your energy to the wrong place. Be angry towards pentagon or to american goverment. Dont be try to bunch NASA in to the same group, just because you feel bad about the world. Their work has brought betterment for humanity and yelling how they are just nazies trying to end the world just eats their credibility.

Also i want to point out, that the naive person, who does not understand how the world works, here are you. Trying to neatly box huge institution with over 18 000 people working in, into one neat package, when in the real world you know everything is not black and white and sometimes people need to do things they dont necessary agree with, so later they can keep working on things they want to.

Also i dont consider myself as a liberal. Im from country with working democracy, and where politics are more intrique than blue versus red.

The sneering was only half intentional. And personaly i quite enjoy discussing things like this.

But i still strongly disagree with your view. Hello Games was small studio at the start, but they havent been ringing the indie bell for their game and in my opinion they havent stolen the limelight from indie devs. Games like Terraria and Stardew valley are still celebrated games and people are praising those games and the work devs have being doing with the updates.

Following your logic one could argue, that companies behind those games are not anywhere near the small indie teams people imagine them. And we should be angry for them too, because they take the spotlight from games like Dwarf Fortress and Project Zomboid, that have been passion projects for years before those earlier two even were concepts.

The main thing that makes No Man Sky different is that those succesfull indie games were good from the beginning, while NMS was horrible and borderline unsalvageable game, but the devs kept working on it and making it slowly better. A effort most companies wont do.

So in my opinion people should be happy and support Hello Games, because that shows to the other companies, that even if the first release of the game is bad, it is possible (and profitable) to keep making the game better.

Of course, if we lived in perfect world we could consider what HG is doing a bare minimum, but we live in a world where what they do is exceptional.

Also i strongly disagree about they doing minimun professionally. They have kept the now almost ten years old game playable, added vr, new console supports. If you want to see what minimal is take a look of Assasins Creed Unitys state in 2025.

I feel like i got it now. You want to add drama. You are the neighbor yelling over the fence, the one who seems to have something against the houses, even if it literaly does not effect on their life at all.

This is why i did not want to respond to your analogy from the beginning. It does not lead to anywhere as everything is makebeliview.

Facts.

The game is overwhelmingly positive status on steam. Recently almost 90% of the people are satisfied to the product.

Its player base keeps getting bigger.

The game is soon 10 years old, but it keeps getting updates.

Hello Games have been working on the game in the situation where industry standard would have been to stop.

Now now mr conspiracy theorists. We are not talking about yanks and their culture. We are talking about NASA.

The one agency in USA that is sience based, does most collaborations with other science based organisations and has done great scientific breaktroughs that has helped allmost every human on this planet and they have shared those findings

Think for a moment. If NASA was an integral part of american military development and filled with evil geniouses that want to subjucate rest of the world, why they are the agency that struggles the most to keep their funding and has been for years under the knive.

You know NASA was founded over a decade after Manhattan project right.

And that first ICBM came from the soviets, not from the USA. Also before NASA was founded.

Yeah! What usefull things NASA has done for human kind?!

Other than: Memory foam, Portable cordless vacuum, Freeze-dried food, CMOS image sensors, Light-induced oxidation air scrubbers, Weight-resistance exercise equipment, Water purification systems, Firefighting protective gear, Highway safety grooves, Image stabilization technology, Anti-icing aircraft systems, Scratch-resistant lenses, Infrared ear thermometers, Insulation materials (radiant barrier foil), Aerogel insulation products, Programmable heart pacers (derived control tech), LASIK eye-surgery mapping technology, Advanced prosthetics components, Shock-absorbing athletic shoe materials, Improved tire rubber compounds, Portable blood analyzers, Satellite-based weather data applications, Crop monitoring algorithms, Oil spill mapping technologies, Baby formula nutrient fortification (DHA/ARA research contributions)

People downvote you, but if i were hiring for a job with lots of wanting candidates and where one mistake has possibility of costing billions of dollars, i would too choose somebody who would know enough to recognize one of the more prevailing person on the field, or who would atleast have sense to look them up before starting dropping f bombs.

Or even more, one who does not drop f bombs at anybody.