The Octonaut
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23·4 天前If you’re trying to prove that I can indeed feel cringe, keep going, you’re almost there
All code uploaded to Github is scraped
This is the very simple statement that I was responding to, along with the next line about how using Github is implicit consent to feeding your data to an LLM. If the poster wants nuance, they are free to provide it themselves. You can see in subsequent responses there is none.
Of course them being different matters. That’s my point. Not all code uploaded to Github is being fed into an LLM. It is not consent if you are signing a contract demanding that something not be done. It’s preposterous even at a surface level.
Github Enterprise Server is different from Github Enterprise Cloud, which is what I was talking about, and which is explicitly not used for training LLMs, and if it were, would absolutely kill Github as a product and likely mire Microsoft in years of litigation.
Frankly I don’t know of any software company using Github Enterprise on-prem but I suppose there are probably some CEOs out there who haven’t taken the OpEx pill. Maybe deep in the rainforest with Mokele-Mbembe. Certainly in my sliver of the tech industry, telecoms, the idea of owning a server is akin to having a deskphone and an outgoing mail room.
Sure. Any day now.
Being embarrassed by association with people who say things like “all code uploaded to Github is subject to being scraped” might be childish. Not sure it’s as childish as being embarrassed by “cringe” though. That would imply I care about your opinion on my communication. I don’t.
I do care that you understand that a half dozen people in this thread are actively outing themselves as completely ignorant about the real world of software development and the software industry in general. Probably not surprising given the words “Gentoo” and “Codeberg” in the title of the post.
A company that pays Microsoft to host code and would join the suit that would bury them if they used proprietary code to train models in breach of paid contracts?
All of the responses are saying that Github reads all code. Github public and Github enterprise are products of the same organisation. Many are even saying they will consume enterprise data anyway despite contracts not to. As I said in my first response, there aren’t many things that would ruin Microsoft’s ability to operate but this is one.
What vibes do you think I’m going off?
Source: I’m employed
“Gullible” is not a thing you can be when somehow has signed a contract with you… that’s why contracts exist.
You aren’t paying enterprise subscriptions to use Facebook, and as bad as they are, Microsoft are not Meta.
It’s in every enterprise and business contract signed with them. The FAQ was just the first result on Google. Its obviousness shouldn’t even require that much. It’s extremely clear how few of Lemmy’s “technology” crowd have any contact with adult life.
No, it isn’t.
“Basically” your vibes aren’t an actual answer. Businesses are not forking over millions to give away their code.
You can have conspiracy theories about it using the code anyway (I’m particularly confused about your use of the word “scrape” which tells me you don’t know how AI training works, how hosting a website works, or how scraping works - maybe all three?) but surreptitiously using its competitors’ code to train CoPilot would be a rare existential threat to Microsoft itself.
Does GitHub use Copilot Business or Enterprise data to train GitHub’s model?
No. GitHub does not use either Copilot Business or Enterprise data to train its models.
African-American is pretty awkward but it fits the similarly awkward model of Irish-American, Italian-American. The reason those are more specific should be obvious and horrifying - the vast majority of black Americans have little record of their ancestry before cross-Atlantic transportation. It would be nice if Americans just focused on the American part but these labels were often imposed on them from outside before they were adopted as a matter of spiteful pride from inside. Like LGTBQ Pride, St Patrick’s Day parades originally had an element of defiance and protest.
It’s useful in AAVE though because it is specifically American as opposed to just “black”. There are black slang/vernaculars in the Caribbean, Britain and France for example. Some of it bleeds into AAVE/Global English too - e.g. fam, bruv.
61·8 天前You might try reading the rest of the paragraph?
Well I’m not, I’m not the person you were responding to.
But your absolute confidence that it hasn’t happened is somewhat undermined as I’d bet that being provided witg dozens if not hundreds of random, suffering women and raping them without a second thought increases the chances of having had sex with a transwoman, not decreases it.
It’s horrifying to say, but while Trump boasts he could shoot someone on the street and still be popular, it only takes one passing transwoman to pull that rug out from under him. You think he’s chromosome-testing every trafficked woman on his private jets?
The scheme literally measurably turned a profit for the state, effectively turned un/under-employment into a net asset for the country. And paying for those “unemployed miners” you’re worried about. Y’know, in Ireland’s vast mines.
Ireland’s massive tourism industry is strongly reliant on our culture and arts, which obviously took a massive hit during Covid. Keeping people performing in the arts during dry spells rather than seeking work (underground?) retains and develops those skills rather than having them be lost and our culture eroded by global media.
I’m sure you like Irish culture and dislike global media, right?
31·23 天前Because I typed it.
I don’t need to prove anything, but mostly, your issue seems to be that you think a shitty in-painting image model has anything to do with the usefulness of something like Github Co-Pilot.
If you don’t understand something it’s ok not to have the edgy opinion on it by default.
trust thsir own feelings over facts
Can I take a guess that you are not currently employed in the software development industry?
Instantly?
Hospitals, telecoms, schools, universities, research labs the world over would be left without security updates or tech support. Businesses would crash out, access to everything from Sharepoint to Outlook to Entra ID SSO cut off rendering tens of millions unable to work and likely furloughed or redundant.
Enjoy your accelerationist fantasies if you like, daring to assume that the void would be filled by fucking Linux Mint or something and not literally just Apple. But the idea that it would be instant is even more unhinged than the average .ml stammering about the misunderstood virtues of Russian anti-Imperialism.