The Octonaut

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Yes, absolutely it is virtue signalling. You are taking an utterly meaningless stance for which the only upside for anyone is you think you maintain some kind of honour despite consuming “theft slop” unknowingly every day, even as you read this sentence, and the only downside for anyone is that you don’t get to experience a game that you otherwise would enjoy used to have, even if deliberately and knowingly, used to have some AI textures.

You’re the one who ignored what I said, which is why I’m essentially just having to repeat myself. If you take such hardline stance that any use at all is “theft slop”, you might as well go offline. It’s in the code that made the app you’re using. It’s in the code running your OS. It’s in music you listen to. It’s in the movies you watch.

Absolutely push back on theft - deliberate misrepresentation of someone’s work or style as orignal. Absolutely push back on slop. Just because it took a minute to generate something doesn’t mean you don’t then check it before productionising it. But taking this weird religious stance where something literally is tainted from previously having used AI, that is just for you. You’ve got about 30,000 days on this earth, man. Probably a good chunk of that is gone already. Spend a few hours of it playing an interesting, original game which does more to demonstrate the value of real creativity and originality than any little personal protest you indulge yourself in.

They removed the AI content less than a week after release. By unspecified I mean it wasn’t a deliberate “this is the AI section”.

The awards were given 4 days ago, 6 months after release (more?). So the judgement is not on the game as it stands or even as it was submitted.

The awards don’t matter, I’m just genuinely baffled by this person depriving themselves of joy because of some virtue signalling that relies entirely on just not being aware of AI being used everywhere else.

Following the publication of this article, Sandfall Interactive wishes to provide the following clarifications.

The studio states that it was in contact with El País on April 25 - three months prior to this publication. During these exchanges, Sandfall Interactive indicated that it had used a limited number of pre-existing assets, notably 3D assets sourced from the Unreal Engine Marketplace. None of these assets were created using artificial intelligence. Sandfall Interactive further clarifies that there are no generative Al-created assets in the game. When the first Al tools became available in 2022, some members of the team briefly experimented with them to generate temporary placeholder textures. Upon release, instances of a placeholder texture were removed within 5 days to be replaced with the correct textures that had always been intended for release, but were missed during the Quality Assurance process.

Because they used, and then removed, placeholder AO generated textures in some unspecified location?

I hate to break it to you buddy but for the last 2 years every piece of software you’ve used, including this one, has had the dev experiment with AI tools.

Nice religion.

It’s a tool. You’re attaching far too much moral virtue to something that in another breath you will describe as an autocomplete tool.

You are all over this thread repeating variations of the same comment which, despite wildly different responses from voters, mostly show you do not at all understand how image model training and generation work.

This sort of absolutism is dead. Do you think they should be disqualified if they Google something and the answer is in Google’s AI summary?

• No? Great, now we understand your line is subjective and you get to decide what is or isn’t acceptable use of AI.
• Yes? Cool. Describe how the you police this and how do you choose between fhe three games made next year that will qualify, of which 2 are furry Visual Novels made entirely of RPG maker assets and 1 is the fifty-seventh Pokemon entry.

Sometimes we do. Sometimes we’ll take a loss on the phone because we want you to stay paying the bill after your contract. Market segmentation and personalised offers are a big thing at the moment.

Cool, you live in that world already. Most networks don’t lock phones anymore. Our first question to people who ask for phones to be unlocked is whether they actually tried the new SIM in it yet, as almost none of our phones are sold locked anymore.

DT is far more than a network carrier, it’s one of the largest IT services companies in the world. On top of that their largest profits in the mobile sector are from the, eh, less regulated T-Mobile.

Their operating margin is around 12%, way down on last year.

https://companiesmarketcap.com/deutsche-telekom/operating-margin/

A more straightforward telecom example might be Vodafone in the UK who are at -4% this year: providing services cost them money https://companiesmarketcap.com/gbp/vodafone/operating-margin/

Telefonica in Spain are at 1.7% https://companiesmarketcap.com/telefonica/operating-margin/

Orange in France are at 10% https://companiesmarketcap.com/orange/operating-margin/

For comparison outside of the telecoms sector, Google is at 40%

https://companiesmarketcap.com/alphabet-google/operating-margin/

Assuming the cutout feature works by AI and requires you send your photo to their server, it makes a lot of sense that Apple don’t want you sending your nads to their server.

I’m sorry the carriers you deal with are so shit but until mobile data transfer becomes a government utility (and let me tell you, there’s a reason telecoms are scrambling to diversify) they do have to make a profit. In most markets the margins are razor thin and new radio technologies (4G, 5G, 6G) are costing more and returning less.

So when poorly regulated markets let them merge into monopolies, or they cut costs by reducing human customer services, “based, I stole a phone from a shitty company” should hopefully be also followed up by you supporting legislation to make mobile data a government utility.

For reference I work in an EU telecom and our industry is heavily regulated. If software companies or supermarkets were hammered for what they do with the data we “just” transfer, they’d be a lot cleaner too.

I work for a telecom.

99% of the time this was because the cost of the phone is built into your plan. There was a serious risk (and still is) of fraud whereby the phone is fraudulently ordered to an address, the phone physically swiped, the customer never pays, and the telecom can’t recover the phone or its costs. More basically, it used to be pretty hard to get money from customers who just stopped paying. You could get a €2000 euro phone for €500, pay that up front, and walk to the local guy with a serial cable who unlocked your phone for €20.

Theres a lot more protections, technological and legal, that have slowed this now, but the profit is still high enough that jumping through hoops like embedding an ally in the contact centre or intercepting couriers is still worth it. Most of our phones are no longer locked to carrier as we just have better ways of dealing with it now, and all we were doing was feeding 20 euro to the guy who also sells vapes and buys gold.

Is “the vast majority of your users” your display name or something? I have those turned off in my client settings

Vast yes. Deep, no. That’s what you’re experiencing; the actual game loop is about as complex as Farmville

I swear to god if this is Schleiswig Holstein again I’m giving it back to Denmark

Edit: of course it is. Ok it’s Sønderjylland again now. Prusssians out.

Everything else is “a hack” in the sense that it is literally just the way to get Jellyfin working outside your network too.

Remote access via their servers.

Ok but have you tried using Jellyfin?

They are pro-Tory. The Tories greatest threat right now is being eaten alive by the Reform party. Doesn’t matter if the Telegraph have to take a hit, blaming Farage not the Tories for the economy is worth it.