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Cake day: June 14th, 2023

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  • Even if you are into the premium end of the market, I think the reality is that smartphones is a mature market now. They’ve been around since 2007, and even before that it wasn’t like every model was a nokia 3310, so we’re at the cumulation of 16+ years of iteration and for most people it’s well past the point of diminishing returns. So we see companies try new angles like foldables to keep the upgrade cycle going. Their main consideration is whether they can produce something to sell, and if they can do something their competitors can’t so the smartphone doesn’t become a generic thing entirely.

    Improving the camera has been a bigger draw for a lot of people so they have a high quality point and shoot constantly with them, or memory/storage, or screen size/resolution, or CPU, or battery life, and I’d assume that’s also getting to the point of diminishing returns.


  • Yeah that’s an option, and philip notes that, however then I think you’re into the siren call of “just a little bit better” for putting a PC build together where it really starts to add up if you’re at the budget end of the market. I’ve seen lots of people do that when they’re discussing spending someone else’s money.

    What I think you can’t ignore is consoles, most of the games on test were multi-platform, and I can get a brand new PS5 now with a game for 400 bucks, or much less from looking at local classified. If you’re not into current games or what’s coming out in the next few years then it’s hard not to recommend going for a used PC (if you’re aiming at older/low requirements PC gaming), which is another conversation, and even then looking at classifieds again the pricing isn’t always that competitive (vs last-gen console, series S). Someone is selling a rough equivalent to my 2016-17 build i7-7700k/1070 for around 550 bucks. A lot revolves around the question of how much you really want a PC.

    While things have improved, I find it really hard to say PC gaming is good value now unless you’ve got piles of money to throw at it, in which case value probably doesn’t really enter into it as a primary concern rather than gloating “my 4090 is so much value”, because it is, but you’re throwing multiples of the other guy’s whole budget around


  • and filthy companies

    The small section on the end result of AMD nerfing the 6500xt down to 4 lanes of PCIe4 is as good an example of this as any. For the budget offering (and it’ll be even worse if you run it on a PCIe3 motherboard which seems likely for budget builders), it was awful at release and it has very weak staying power. And this is presumably meant to be an entry point for people getting into PC gaming, getting them hooked with a nice enough experience and they hang around to but more expensive cards in future. The 6500xt is about a year and a half old at this point with nothing to replace it, games have only become more demanding and will continue to do so, so anyone buying that as a ‘modern’ card or their entry point (and the price hasn’t gone down that much) I just can’t see their experience as anything but bottom of the barrel, like if you were using a software renderer back in the day because you didn’t have a 3D card yet.