Palestinians knew who they were when they elected them.

This is nothing to get excited about. Like so many other things there will be constant innovations on both sides. It’s an arms race between the scammers and the scam detectors.

I cloned my own voice to prank a friend, and… Wow, it was a gut-dropping moment when I understood just how dangerous this tool is for precisely this type of scam.

It’s one thing to hear about it, but to actual experience it… Terrifying.

ROFL

Most protested peacefully, far from the border fence. However, groups mainly comprising young men approached the fence and engaged in violent actions directed towards the Israeli side. Israeli officials argued that Hamas used the demonstrations as cover for launching attacks against Israel

The international community has made no serious effort to stop Palestinian terrorism. The Palestinians themselves certainly haven’t. And for a looong time now, Israel has been extremely restrained under a a never ending shower of terrorist rocket attacks at their citizens.

Can you imagine how many decades ago this conflict would have ended if all nations had made Palestinian aid contingent of the aid recipients being pro-peace?

Oh, you walked away from the the negotiating table again? Hope you don’t get hungry any time soon.

Instead they dumped money on Arafat, who continued to use terrorism against Israel, and died a billionaire while his people lived in poverty.

The UN has given Israel precisely zero reasons to take it seriously. The UN has been at times COMICALLY anti-Israel, applying the most offensive double standards.

I use YouTube for tutorials, education, and entertainment all the time. And YouTube music is how I listen to all my music.

I’ve been paying for the YouTube premium version for my family since day one.

Recently they took away my grandfathered-in pricing. It really costs me a ton of money.

But I remember that I’m keeping ads off my screens, my parents’ screens, and my kids screens… And we all use YouTube music all the time… So…

Yeah, a lot of money, but honestly, probably the best subscription I have.

I could never go back to ads.

Every nation? Not at all. An overwhelming number of Arab nations? Yes.

I don’t disagree with any of that.

The important context is that the war in which Israel captured all that territory was a war where all of Israel’s neighbors were the aggressors.

And Israel quickly traded back land for peace, as was the case with Egypt.

And the neighboring Arab states DELIBERATELY created the Palestinian refugee crisis by refusing to take in all their former countrymen, believing that the humanitarian crisis was good politics for them, and would be a nightmare for Israel. (Correct on both counts).

I also agree that the settlements are a dick move, and purely antagonistic.

I also think Israel is using them as a bargaining chip.

I think in the Oslo Accords, Israel offered literally everything it could, and when that wasn’t enough, they leaned hard into creating settlements, a new bargaining chip, which someday they could add to future negotiations.

I also think that over time the Palestinians’ bargaining position has weakened.

Now that Israel has a security fence, the iron dome, and one of the most powerful militaries in the world, the daily threat of terrorism has been reduced to an unfortunate but livable state of existence. (This week excluded obviously)

Frankly at this point Israelis can wait out the Palestinians indefinitely, and I’m betting that when this current state of War is over, Israel is going to be in the business of securing themselves even more tightly.

I doubt if they’ll be inclined to ever offer Palestinians a peace deal as generous is the one they offered during the Oslo Accords.

Sorry, but the UN’s anti-Israel bias is extremely well documented. They’ve earned my skepticism and yours.

You think that’s bad?! You should see the chart of the evil United States low casualties versus the poor innocent Nazi casualties during WWII.

Everyone knows that body count tells the whole story!

My solution to the problem is a two-state solution where Palestinians take whatever Israel is willing to offer at this point.

Palestinians have ZERO leverage in this situation. They lost. The lost decades upon decades ago.

If they loved their children more than they hate the Jews, they would cut their losses and rebuild.

It really is exactly that simple. Because Israel will never budge, and they are getting better and better at defense themselves over time.

Economically, Israel is thriving. They can wait forever. That’s the political reality.

And if you think the answer is pulling international support from Israel, consider that China or some other world power would love to have a foothold in that region, and Israel will have have no problem finding other allies if we want to give up access to intelligence in that region.

You’re not considering the population growth rate in Gaza is considerably higher than in Israel.

The demographic shift would have a massive impact on Israeli democracy, even if a complete theocracy was not immediately on the table.

For comparison, imagine what would happen to any swing state if you introduced 20 percent of voters from deep red Alabama.

How long until books are banned?

Again, the sources are suspect. The UN has been widely, absurdly anti-Israel to an absolutely comical extent.

I don’t think that’s a great assessment. Israel is much better at avoiding civilian casualties than even the United States.

If they are the best in the world at minimizing civilian casualties during military operations, your definition of “very successful” might need some reexamination.

Says you.

According to who?

You have to take these stories with a grain of salt.

Do you remember the Jenin massacre?

Do you remember all the awful things that the Israelis did? It was horrific.

… Except …

It never happened. The Palestinians lied about it.

That’s a terrible analogy because it doesn’t fit the fact that for all kinds of reasons.

But for the sake of argument, let’s accept part of your basic premise.

Let’s assume that decades ago someone took over half of your grandma’s house (in which your large family lives). You’re super pissed that you have been relegated to half of what you still think of as your house.

The people in “your” house with you are much, much, much, much tougher than you, and you will never, ever, ever get them out by force.

The people in your house with you have tried time and again to come to a peaceful living situation with you, but you hate them so much that you have refused literally every single offer to live in harmony.

You constantly throw rocks at their children. Every once in a while you kill one of their children.

You do this while hiding behind your own children, so that if they fight back and shoot you, there’s a very good chance they’ll hit your children.

This is fine with you because you value the news story this will create more than you value the life of your own child.

The people in “your” house have the deed to the house, and have the might to do whatever they want with the house, and ask the neighbors recognize it is their house, even if they sometimes grumble about it.

The people in “your” house build a fence through the middle of the house to prevent you from killing their children, which you are still trying to do every single day.

The people in your house make sure you get food and water, but they are so sick of your violent behavior that they are choking you off from luxuries or prosperity of any kind.

You know your children could have a better life if you just accepted that you’ll never get the whole house back. Heck, if you asked nicely, you could probably still get a deed to the part of the house your live in. You could pass that on to your kids. They could rebuild. They could thrive by working with the people in “your” house.

But you hate the people in your house more than you love your own kids. So you keep this futile, hopeless, fighting going. And every day you wake up trying to kill their children.

I don’t disagree.

On the other hand, Palestinian police make literally zero effort to reign in their own terrorists.