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  • I replied to another comment with this, but Debian 12(stable, bookworm) and 13(testing, trixie) are affected by this but 12(stable, bookworm) has a patch out in the security repo.

    If you wanna know wether or not you’re affected,

    apt list libc

    will show your version and the one you want is 2.36-9+deb12u4

    If you don’t have that,

    apt update && apt upgrade

    will straighten you out

    13(testing, trixie) has 2.37, but it’s not fixed yet.

    E: Edited to use apt list instead of apt show.









  • I wrote a long-ish comment in another thread explaining why lots of people don’t like systemd.

    Stuff like this is why people do like systemd.

    The massive, un unixy and complex tools allow for very powerful and somewhat knowledge agnostic approaches to all sorts of problems.

    One of the nicest things about systemds toolset is that it allows a person who relies on finding the problem and googling it to resolve thing much faster than their alternative, learn what’s going on and figure it out.

    I don’t mean that as a pejorative, plenty of computer work is maintenance as opposed to engineering and there’s nothing wrong with that.



  • i’m skeptical about electric trucks.

    they’re gonna be a hit with the people who’ve been buying them instead of sedans lately, but the fleet and rural markets are gonna be less inclined to use em and needing a big battery service periodically is gonna change the long term value proposition of a full size truck for a lot of people.


  • They’re planning on building four, and they paused construction recently as a power play in negotiations when the uaw said battery workers should get the same pay as the machinists.

    I saw that those plants will be making batteries for the new f150, not the much smaller evs that everyone else drives.

    Battery manufacture is part of its own can of worms though, and one that doesn’t make evs look great either.

    I wanna also say that I’m not against spinning down the ice auto industry, but no one who’s suggesting doing that or making fun of people who recognize that it’s the consequence of things that are already happening has a real plan for it.


  • Come on, is the best insult you got that I sound like it’s my job to defend workers?

    Really and truly, where will the labor cost savings go? There’s going to be one, so who gets it? How will that be enforced?

    What’s gonna be done for the people whose labor isn’t needed anymore? Bear in mind we’re not just talking about the protagonists of the now forty year old song “Allentown”, but entire industries that support ice car production like die making and machining. Surely we have some idea of what happens here aside from “theyre fucked, some people’s blood and bonemeal grease the rails of progress”.

    You can’t just handwave away the real effects of changes in productivity in the name of abstractly defined technological progress.

    If you can’t seriously engage with the effects of a transition to producing electric cars then it’s no wonder American conservatives are making so much hay over it.


  • No really, the parts/labor breakdown of an ev skews farther to parts than an ice car. Who gets that money in their pocket in exchange for all the jobs?

    What happens to the families and communities that depend on the jobs that are going away?

    Have we learned anything from the failed reskilling of Appalachian coal country?


  • I’m gonna go backwards here:

    We don’t see lots of high drag coefficient evs that look like mustangs because all the features of the mustang that make it look boxy and aggressive are there to accommodate the reality of making air go places it’s needed, across the radiator and into the engine.

    We don’t see ev jeeps because jeeps are (or used to be) relatively lightweight, high torque vehicles whose design choices favor ground clearance over aerodynamics. Evs are relatively heavyweight and benefit most from low ground clearance and good aerodynamics.

    When automakers try to put those designs in an ev buyers react negatively to them, to the point that they have to have ersatz engine noise to be accepted.

    Indeed the wrangler and mustang are so disconnected from normal buying trends that they kept stick shift long after the industry wide move to automatics!

    Those are popular models, but they’re extreme outliers in terms of design.

    Let me address the top part of your reply with a question: if evs are so great and such a slam dunk why has Toyota, famous for not making the wrong choices, stuck with hybrids up until very recently?