mathemachristian[he]

third times the charm right?

In my case my hexbear account is an alt of my lemm.ee account

My point was that there was much more good faith discussion from hexbear than from OP, I think the posts you copied here illustrate that nicely.

Also

Poor oppressed Putin!

shows how little you understand these arguments, the argument you post after that is meant to illustrate how Putin is an oppressor, not a oppressed or a speaker of the oppressed.

They’re detailed, they’re sourced and they give a coherent explanation. You can call them crock or whatever but it’s something you can actually argue against. None of this applies to the responses OP gave.

Also you’re really not understanding what is being said about the nazis in ukraine, namely that they are in power and control of the military. Which is an argument Im not gonna get into since I don’t know enough about it, but there is more to it than the "ukraine is imperfect because it has nazis and this is enough justification case closed. " argument you claim is being put forth.

“Ukraine isn’t a utopia, therefore it’s a dystopia”.

What?

More to the point, OPs replies were worse or non-existent. If you are going to bring up the ukraine war in a forum that is known to be on the other side of your argument you should have a better explanation than “Putin wants to revive the USSR” or at least something to back it up. Or at least engage the people trying to explain their viewpoints.

More the fact that they got detailed replies but their best counter in that whole thread where the two replies where they quickly google some shit and paste the first results and provided no thoughts of their own.

Here is a sample of the enriching experience they brought to the site: https://lemm.ee/post/41483398/14572285

and I’ll leave it to you to figure out why I’m not posting with my hexbear alt on lemmy.world

and how they kept being able to back it up?

Lol you got banned from hexbear and now are crying about it on lemmy.world?

Yeah they kept being able to back the most ridiculous claims and then suddenly I was like “oh no they were right all along” and got radicalized 🤷

our anti-crime precautions
their high-tech surveillance

If he relly believes democracy is at stake there is only one course of action left

Play the first one its amazing, and if you are wondering what it was that was missing watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgJazjz9ZsA

A bomb!

I dont know why you would be, are you in the US? Its very likely that they were behind it and are trying to cover it up

Yeah but he wasn’t. It was Fetullah Gülen who is now in hiding in the USA.

Hell of a spin

giving the rest a pass because they are no longer visible in your day-to-day life you are effectively saying success justifies it.

Huh? How does that follow? If there is no longer injustice from an oppressor-oppressed dynamic then what is there to do? And how does the fact that it’s no longer possible to make right justify the crime?

Edit: I don’t even know what point you are trying to argue, my original statement was that states which are engaging in settler colonialism should be dismantled and dont have a right to exist. There can be other reasons to dismantle states forcibly (capitalism being the predominant one), this is but one of them. A rather egregious one.

So what you’re saying is, if one side fully wipes out and/or swallows up the other fully, colonialism is then ok.

no im not wtf

Words like “colonialism” or “settler colonialism” serve the purpose of naming injustices committed by empires.

They arent just bound to a space but also to a time. So the ongoing oppression against native palestinians, native americans etc is settler colonialism since it is about a people taking land from them without compensation. The roman empire also did settler colonialism. The difference is that the settler romans and indigenous population at this point are indistinguishable from each other. Through intermarriages and cultural exchanges there is not a roman-german and a germanic-german culture. And where there are cultural differences stemming from the days of roman settlerism these now coexist. There is no oppressor-oppressed dynamic anymore that characterizes settler colonialism.