This is better for hug 🫂

I like how you frame your pov, it’s convincing. Esp. this part,

The problem with this is that society doesn’t get to choose where his money went, he did.

I agree, and I’ve always been about higher taxes on the wealthy. The point in original point was more that the left needs effective, goal-directed leadership. Not martyrs or short-term solutions.

lol 😂

Okay fair points, perhaps! But I think literally two days ago there was front page post about a billionaire who gave away his fortune and died with something like 200M. I mean, if he made sure his money was being spent wisely then he did a net good for humanity.

Secondly, I don’t mean to antagonize with these posts, so if anyone’s feelings were hurt, I feel bad.

Haha, I’ll ping you again in two years and follow up on the results 🤷‍♀️

Maybe I am being a little harsh, but that’s because I just think it’s terrible waste of someone who gave a shit and could have made a difference

I don’t know if that accomplishes anything for people who are suffering from unfair healthcare policies

Ugh please stop. The left needs to stop idolizing losers like Luigi or Unabomber.

The Che comparison is uncalled for because Che actually achieved something other than getting caught.

As far as US activists go, people who actually achieve something like MLK or Malcolm X or Rosa Parks or Harriet Tubman are 100% more admirable.

Choose winners! We need people like Musk for these causes, not losers who peter out and die.

/controversial opinion

I already have one, 🥑

Chat, how do I make friends like this?

Hey it’s not a lie.

It’s an advanced fact discontinuity.

Okay fair, sometimes I can lose patience when I feel like I am up against some kind of religious thinking. A lot of good points have been raised in this thread, and I believe in the strength of different ideas coming together to serve a common good, goal for people.

Fr, there’s so much now days that I’ve eaten the onion several times.

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I don’t understand, can you give some examples?

Why should an owner share profits equally if they’re responsible for most of the startup push?

Great point, I’ll take that into consideration

I am sorry, but what does bought out mean? The person running it simply didn’t have to sell. If you’re saying “money was too tempting”, then isn’t that an inherent flaw in any Marxist Leninist theory in practice? So let’s say, the business wasn’t run by someone who cared enough about others and got greedy, so why not start one where you pick the right people? If you can’t do that, then why should any state ever cede over production to workers? How would we ensure greed doesn’t take over then?

I don’t know, it seems the whole argument seems to boil down to “there’s not enough time, money or skill”. I guess my question is why do ML theorists think workers can organize enough to run a state when they can’t organize enough to run a business?

People upvoting this have no idea, VCs aren’t the only way to fund a business