You know that thing our collective parents do when they want to win an argument so they just start attacking you for random things you did 6 years ago? That’s exactly what this person is doing.

The person above you, I mean.

Uh. I’m gonna guess no. Is there an anime lady with robots?

God, this image is cool. Very NaissancE, if you’ve ever played that.

You realize that costing more does satiate the greed a little bit, right?

Like, yeah, we all know that line-goes-up capitalism isn’t sustainable, but there are still other reasons call of duty has loot boxes and battle passes now.

We’re still talking about ~3 mil to ~150 mil. If the software dev costs for Mario 64 were closer to ~1.5 mil, what does that have to do with the argument being made?

Man, what if we abolished copyright, but also banned gen AI completely. I think that would be the funniest answer.

It’s friday and I’m going to have plenty of drinks, there will be no soda in sight.

Um… congratulations?

Human beings have a soul you can appeal to?
Not every single one, but enough.

Ha ha! We got this one for free!

I don’t think I run on AMD or Intel, so uh, yes.

Me too, man, I miss the 3DS era. I need to go back and replay A Link Between Worlds, at least.

Ahh.

If I were writing a character play, I’m still not sure how this would go. I’m sure there are stories out there, though.

I cannot even fathom how this happened.
Glad you two are happy, though. <3

Holy shit that’s scary

You know, maybe one day I’ll do it again. The only people I would have play Drakengard are those with extreme patience, and unfortunately, I’m one of those people.

It does have a really good story.

Nooo, wait who actually plays Drakengard? I love that game to bits, but I would never tell someone to play it. Was I just bad? That game is truly awful, haha.

Fuck I miss SSX. I need to make sure I have a good one in my rom folder.

I don’t want any. :(

but I justify it by pointing to things like splatter or fluid acrylic painting.

The counter I would give here is that those are just techniques. The challenge, then, is whether the generation machine can be made to do things that are interesting and meaningful. I know it can produce spectacle, but spectacle and meaning are different concepts.

I don’t know much Pollock, but isn’t he valued largely for his process and expressionism? I’m not making this accusation of you, you do seem to actually care, but a lot of people who bring him up seem to think that his work actually is random and unintelligible—I don’t think that it is.

I will concede that the process of interacting with the generation machine to produce something is a creative one, I just don’t think it’s anywhere near what a lot of proponents claim it be.

I’ve used Suno, and my lasting impression of it is that it was fun, sometimes really funny, and overall kind of soul sucking. As a musician, there were essentially no times that I felt anything produced there was mine. It was just novelty. Some of it sounded really cool, but none of it was an expression of me or what I was really looking for.

I think that ultimately my push back is on the folks that argue that it can’t be art.

I’m not really jumping in on this discussion, but I did want to add one thing:

I can believe two things at once.

AI generated media can’t be art … because the whole purpose of a generative AI machine is to alleviate the burden of decision making. The fewer places you let something decide for you, the more “art” you can imbue into your project. Art is a communicative effort.

Artists can use AI generated media … but the points of interest, the meaning, would not (necessarily) be the decisions the machine made.

An example above, I forget if it was you or someone else, shows a pen sketch of a scene then filled in by the generator, and I think the artist there can be given credit for the perspective, the framing of the subject, the mech-suit, the sci-fi aesthetic; but I wouldn’t credit them with the tally marks on her left shoulder, or the shape details of her eyes, or the various light-up displays that dot the walls.

There’s also something to be said for choosing as opposed to creating outright, but I think we’re losing ourselves in myopic details at this point.

The bottom line is that, aside of any ethics issues, I’m not that upset about AI media that’s honest about what it is. I watch youtube channels that depend on AI for their performance art. But, AI proponents love selling this technology as a replacement for people, which is a sentiment I find… disgusting. Inhuman.

And, I find it really sad the way a person who spent the better part of their life perfecting a style and technique can be essentially shoved out of their own niche by the 10,000 style-copy images a generator can make in an afternoon. This isn’t like photography, where painters and camera-snappers can coexist in separate styles of image production: AI generators can replace both.

Sorry, I thought all that was going to be just two paragraphs.